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I'm not. I've used McAfee for years, and the only trouble I've had has
been with the automatic updating - so I now do it manually.

 

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take a peek at
http://www.eicar.org/anti_virus_test_file.htm

to check out your av


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soz Bear I don't use AVG .. I use F-Secure



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^^^^^^^
Thanks. But there's no such thing.

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nice to prove the AV works uh?

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Thats true, but it at least proves the scanning engines are
working etc .... Sometimes its just nice to have the confirmation
that the system is working

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Erm, like I keep saying, there's tons of independent reviews. All the AV
vendors ship the eicar test file as an installation check. Incidentally,
it should be reported as such and not as a virus (could panic some folks
otherwise).

If you want to download loads of viruses for testing, there's plenty out
there, but collections available for download are usually a pile of crap
and not valid for testing purposes. Also, why do something that these
guys have already done?:

http://www.av-test.com
http://agn-www.informatik.uni-hamburg.de/vtc/index.htm

There's a lot to read. Don't just look at a couple of test results and
think "that looks good/crap". It really is worth reading the whole lot.

Or is it...?

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Paul.

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CBR1100XX SuperBlackbird
VTR1000 Firestorm
RGV 250
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BOTAFOF #30
MRO #24

 

Bear wrote:

<Mode = motorcyclist ie; not representing NAI>

Just had a chat with one of our researchers. There's a couple of major
differences between a little company and the likes of NAI/Symantec etc.
One should be fairly obvious just because of size. We have dozens of
researchers all over the world who are constantly receiving samples,
analysing them and adding detection/repair. This means that at any time
of any day (365), once a new threat emerges, we can deal with it very
quickly. Most of the big players also share collections. A small company
with only one office only has to be on holiday (or even on the toilet)
when an outbreak occurs, to be later than everyone else with updates.
For a corporate customer this is bad news.

The bigger companies also have teams of people working on clever generic
detection, so quite often new threats are detected by a scanner that's
never seen them before. This can be seen in some graphs I've just been
looking at. Grisoft are consistently one of the slower off the mark.

Their detection of polymorphic viruses and of trojans tends to be
relatively poor.

Another thing is, the whole industry (well, all the major players) have
cleaned up their act regarding false alarms. AVG still suffers in this
respect.

Having said all that, the differences in detection rates between the
various companies is now pretty tiny. Then you have to start looking at
usability, transparency, support etc.

I think the answer is you get what you pay for. Free protection is
better than no protection. Corporates will go for subscription products
because they can't afford downtime. Also, a false alarm can be worse
than an outbreak, in disruption etc.

In conclusion, I don't have an opinion about AVG. I would guess that
it's ok for home use. I personally don't use AV software at home.

HTH, BIPD.

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Paul.

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CBR1100XX SuperBlackbird
VTR1000 Firestorm
RGV 250
BOTAFOT #4
BOTAFOF #30
MRO #24

 

Listen, I clearly stated what I have tried and hadn't worked, I was
looking for opinions on things that people have tried that I haven't and
recommend, as far as I can tell neither yourself nor Spete took it on
board.

Why would I want someone to recommend something that hasn't worked for
me?

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Well, something is definately amiss on the other machine. Is it because
it is on 24/7 and needs something else installing?

It already runs with zone-alarm enabled, btw.

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Picks it up just fine. I have the file on my system.

- Dave.

 

I've never had a problem with norton on any of the machines I've
installed it on.

HST, N2002 was a bit shakey on one machine when scanning outgoing emails
on a certain account, but unchecking a box isn't that hard....

 

Ta, might be worth looking at that when I upgrade. I assume the AV
programme hasn't caused any conflicts with this OS? Norton doesn't seem
to agree very much with 98.

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It's all to do with the nut behind the wheel, iyswim.
[/QUOTE]
Why, thank you.

<thinks> Have you met my mum?

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That's why the preview pane is turned off. I was curious to see if the
attachments still had the virus active in them and was quite surprised at
the number that did, despite the AV being updated the day before.

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Norton 2003 wouldn't let me download either text file, and shopped both
the zip archives on extracting or with a right click scan.

 

DangerScouse wrote

Amazing how well you know our preferences innit eh?

 

AVG isn't on my machine, and I didn't install it.

Therefore, there is no ****-up on my part.

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The 143kb ones don't seem to be the MS security Patch type but are
"Returned Message", "Undeliverable Mail" and the like. Either way I'm
getting a lot of them.