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Discussion in 'Classic Motorbikes' started by kenney, May 20, 2006.

  1. BZZT. british.
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    Austin Shackles, May 24, 2006
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    Krusty Guest

    <Re-reads thread>

    Ah - missed that bit. Although the only production Vincents being built
    now are the Terry Prince Vincents in Oz, so I was half right ;-)

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    Krusty, May 24, 2006
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    Lozzo Guest

    Krusty said...
    I stopped to help a couple on a Vincent V-twin a couple of weeks ago,
    but they'd only run out of fuel and the fella person was walking back
    with a can in his hand as I left.
     
    Lozzo, May 24, 2006
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    Naqerj Guest

    Aikoku
    Bridgestone
    Chiyoda
    Daihatsu
    Emuro
    Fuji
    Gasuden
    Honda
    IMC
    JAC
    Kawasaki
    Lilac
    Mitsubishi
    Noritsu
    Ohyashima
    Pearl
    Queen Rocket
    Ritsurin
    Suzuki
    Tohatsu
    U
    V
    Wasp
    X
    Yamaha
    Z (That's a marque called "Z", not a marker)

    Hmmm, three short. I confess, I had to look some of those up!
    I reckon a good many countries could provide the complete set. I reckon
    France would do it easily - though most of the would be badge-engineered
    versions of the same bikes.
     
    Naqerj, May 24, 2006
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    Oily Guest

    Well that's still an impressive list for Japan, I could only think of five.
    Go on then, I'd be interested to see how many and which ones?

    Oily
     
    Oily, May 24, 2006
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    Naqerj Guest

    Well, a quick look at Hugo's encyclopaedia reveals that he lists marques
    for France starting with every letter except X.

    The trouble with France is that any reasonably-sized town had its cycle
    and motor cycle shop turning out machines (especially cyclomoteurs,
    vélomoteurs and BMAs) under its own name. In many cases they were just
    bought-in machines with the shop's own badge and transfers applied.
    Those établissments who actually assembles machines often had several
    marques. In Chartres for example, the local assembler, constructor and
    wholesaler was Ets André Gagnon (André Gagnon was mayor of the town for
    many years), which traded its products under the names: Réalty, Radiane,
    FAG (Fabrication André Gagnon) and Carnutes. At Lons-le-Saunier there
    was the Lédonien cycle agency with: Debello, Clipper, Clarus and
    Triomphus. Ets Baud in Le Doubs with: Betty, Elfil, Luxia, Jurasport.
    Ets Jeunet at Dole with: Captivant, Jurax, Sewa, Radia, Eurocycles. F
    Simon with: Sif, Esper, Prester, Semper, Mondia, Elite, Sport...

    And all but two of those examples I've just listed are marques that
    aren't listed in Hugo Wilson's book.

    Just to add to the general confusion you get Manufrance (which used to
    be a huge mail-order operation in France) selling a range of machines
    from a variety of manufacturers but all badged under its own labels:
    Manufrance, Hirondelle, Vélorobot...

    There's no such thing as a definitive list of marques for France.
     
    Naqerj, May 25, 2006
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    Oily Guest

    In that case then, I give up, I *knew* the only good thing to come out of
    France was the road north.

    Oily
     
    Oily, May 26, 2006
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    Naqerj Guest

    I think you'll find someone is this group who'd like to mention Claret
    at this point.
     
    Naqerj, May 26, 2006
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  9. There's at least two of us and the other is, I believe, *in* France at
    this moment, and so will presumably at some point come out:) Whether this
    constitutes a good thing is left as an exercise for the reader.

    Regards, Ian
     
    Ian Northeast, May 26, 2006
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    Oily Guest

    Point taken, my apologies then.

    Oily
     
    Oily, May 26, 2006
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    Kim Bolton Guest

    An interesting site.

    However, under 'Velocette' it says "The first bike to bear the name
    Velocette was the 1939 GTP, a 250cc two-stroke", which is patently
    incorrect. The oldest Velocette photograph I can easily lay my hand on
    is from 1928, showing Harold Willis in the Junior TT, on a machine
    clearly displaying the familiar name on the petrol tank. And the GTP
    went over to separate throttle-linked lubrication in 1932.....
     
    Kim Bolton, May 29, 2006
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