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Discussion in 'Classic Motorbikes' started by kenney, May 20, 2006.

  1. kenney

    kenney Guest

    1 The first electric start?

    Indian 1913. This had two batteries and a dynamo that also
    served as a starter. The batteries were in parallel for charging
    and series for starting.

    2 The first four cylinder?

    Holden 1899-1902

    3 The first inline four?

    FN 1904, stayed in production in gradually improved versions
    until at least 1914.

    4 The first known commercially available internal combustion
    motor bike?

    Hildebrand and Wolfmuller.

    5 The earliest British parallel twin?

    Yes, Scott, though I meant to specify four stroke twin, 1908


    6 The first British opposed twin? (180)

    The Fee designed by George Barter. The production version was
    the Fairy produced by Light Motors Limited starting in 1905.
    After Light Motors went bust Barter was employed by Douglas
    Brothers.

    7 Why did George Brough chose Brough Superior for his brand.

    Like people said his father was producing bikes.


    8 Who introduced a commercial spring frame?

    I was going for Indian in 1911, but like I said I am not going
    to be dogmatic.

    I am sure people can work out their own scores.

    Ken Young
     
    kenney, May 20, 2006
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  2. got that one right (ok, with a quick websearch to confirm the details)
    and I think that one.
    about 2/10 I think.

    ABC had a sprung frame quite early on, not sure it was as early as 1911.
    used leaf springs on both ends.
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    Pip Luscher Guest

    Doubled my score.
     
    Pip Luscher, May 20, 2006
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    platypus Guest

    http://www.ozebook.com/a-z_files/wanderer3.jpg

    The illustration in the middle is by Ján Oravec, and shows the 1908
    Wanderer. The seat stays are telescopic and contain spiral spings.
     
    platypus, May 20, 2006
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    Grimly Curmudgeon, May 21, 2006
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    Naqerj Guest

    Zenith
     
    Naqerj, May 21, 2006
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    platypus Guest

    Quasar, Quantel
     
    platypus, May 21, 2006
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  8. Wotcha.
    http://www.ozebook.com/a-z.htm

    A good place to start.
     
    ^..^ Lone Wolf, May 21, 2006
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  9. I was gonna have OK-Supreme
    I'd love to have one of these, the big ones. The inimitable W. H. Charnock
    had one, and it sounds one hell of a machine for the 20s.

    the site mentioned down there a bit doesn't have a bona fide maker for "Y".
     
    Austin Shackles, May 21, 2006
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    Frinton Boy Guest

    I can't remember my own children's names off the top of my
    head. Therefore, with reference to a couple of books...

    I - Ixion

    U - Unibus (scooter sorry)

    X - XL or X-TRA

    Y - Young

    Nick
     
    Frinton Boy, May 21, 2006
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    platypus Guest

    Canon Basil H Davies
     
    platypus, May 21, 2006
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    Colin Guest

    "doesn't have a bona fide maker for "Y".

    There was a Yelverton Union, registered in 1921. Almost too bizarre
    to be true, but truth is stranger than fiction .... wooden frame &
    forks as manufacturer was a carpenter. 300cc.

    Prototype was known to have been in regular use for over 35 years.
    Not clear if if was only ever a one-off -- certainly was very limited
    production at best & didn't appear as an exhibit at any Motorcycle
    Show!

    Colin
     
    Colin, May 22, 2006
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    Naqerj Guest


    Young! Of course, why didn't I think of that? As Mark's pointed out,
    I've even got a picture of one on my website.
     
    Naqerj, May 22, 2006
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    Frinton Boy Guest

    You sad, sad people...

    (member no 5945) ;-)

    Nick
     
    Frinton Boy, May 23, 2006
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  15. Jap bikes, certainly not.

    Anything-but-British....

    Well, starting from the bakck:

    Zundapp

    Yamaha

    X????
     
    The Older Gentleman, May 23, 2006
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    Oily Guest

    I don't think you can find a Jap bike for every letter of the alphabet,
    or if not, any foreign classic?

    Oily
     
    Oily, May 23, 2006
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    Oily Guest

    Wilkinson
    V ?
    Ural
    Terrot
    Sarolea
    Rumi
    Q ?
    Peugeot
    O ?
    NSU
    Moto Guzzi
    Laverda
    Kawasaki
    J ?
    Indian
    Husqvarna
    G ?
    FN
    Excelsior
    Ducati
    C ?
    BMW
    Adler

    Can't think of any more off top of my head.

    Oily
     
    Oily, May 23, 2006
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    Krusty Guest

    Vincent or Velocette
    Cagiva


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    Krusty, May 23, 2006
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    Lozzo, May 23, 2006
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    platypus Guest

    Janecek & Wanderer
    Gilera, Garelli, Griffon, Gnome et Rhone
    Ceska Zbrojovka
     
    platypus, May 24, 2006
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