Angle on speeding ticket - Advice please.

He didn't say he believed or disbelieved the cop, Bada. He said that if
you try that argument in court, you'll lose. That's what everyone else
in here has been telling you too. Getting consistent and unanimous
advice out of this mob is practically impossible, so ..... congratulations.

 

I think he wants to see if he can fit it up his clacker.


GB

 

Applause! (Couldn't have put it better myself!)


GB

 

Yes - I'm getting the "What the hell are you chuckling at" look again..

 

<snicker> You're not terribly bright are you ?

JL
(hint: that's not what he said; read it again)

 

He is, he reckons he knows more than the lot of us combined ..

 

not on the fine.. but in a court of law I will bet you my left
testicle they could prove it without a shadow of a doubt, and thats
all they have to do.

put the GPS coordinates on a fine would just be a value added service
to the finee, and the finers are not into value adding

mh

 

Well.. they _do_ have a photo of their location in every photo... call
it proof or assertion.. choice is yours.

Nev..
'07 XB12X

 

but that's not necessarily a good thing... us combined

mh

 

What do you mean "us" white man?

Theo

 

G'day.

If you must contest it, I think you are coming at it from the wrong
angle.

You state that the photo is "a piece of
black paper with a red glow in the middle and a barely visible
numberplate."

Here in the West, the popo's can't use photo's that include any other
vehicle in the shot. (The other vehicle may be the one that was
speeding...)

If the photo is black, then how can you (or they) ascertain that there
is no other vehicle in the frame?

....Just my 2c worth.

BTW: Glad to see that a lot of the old faces are still here after more
than 10 years - Cheers,

Dan

 

Could - yes probably

Highly unlikely - thats a higher standard than murder and very hard to
achieve

Its not only *more* than they *have* to do, it's more than they
*actually* do. For a fixed speed camera they just say "he was snapped
doing X at Y location at Z time" They don't prove it, they just assert
it. You then have to prove it wasn't you ( a bit different to the rest
of our legal system) if you want to get off.

In fact, IIRC it was Victoria that passed the law that said the camera
is right even when it's wrong...

Indeed

JL

 

<shrug> And as per the OP the photo can be a night time one with sod all
surrounding landscape visible to identify the location.

JL

 

I was going to suggest that he get it greased, coz that's almost
certainly where it's going to wind up...



Bill

 

Thanks Dan,

that is an angle I didn't think of.
I don't know if the law in Qld is similar but a decent solicitor should be
able to tell me.
They government probably has it covered but that is the type of advice I was
asking for.
Thanks again

Bada

 

Why bother with a decent solicitor? Why not just launch straight
in to court and display your ignorance of the law and of basic
digital photography practices for reals, as it were.

That said, you seem pretty determined to waste as much money as
you possibly can on this thing, so yeah, go right ahead and get
yourself an expensive solicitor. S/he'll charge you hundreds to
say the same thing as *everyone* here has told you.


GB

 

**** that, I'd go for a QC or barrister.

 

one with a piece of 2 by 4...

mh

 

I'm getting that look from the family again .. "what's he laughing at
/now/?"

 

Took long enough. Maybe next time you have a question, you should be a
bit more explicit about the exact answer that you want so that we can
help you more quickly.

Nev..
'07 XB12X