And 23 thousand bucks doesn't sound expensive

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by TOG, Jan 12, 2007.

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    Andy Bonwick Guest

    It's a long time since I was working on the that sort of stuff so you
    could well be right. I'd be very surprised if the RAF ever resorted to
    it though.
    I think it might even need to be a worse situation than that.
     
    Andy Bonwick, Jan 14, 2007
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    Cab Guest

    Because of course we'd know you're wrong. ;-)
     
    Cab, Jan 14, 2007
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    Pip Luscher Guest

    I did.
     
    Pip Luscher, Jan 14, 2007
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    Cab Guest

    Heh heh. No, no. I don't think I could go through all of that again.
    :)
     
    Cab, Jan 14, 2007
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    Hog Guest

    I was over at Oracle SJ wen Larry E. bouight the 2 Migs (1 for spares).
    IIRC the FAA never allowed him to use them there.
     
    Hog, Jan 14, 2007
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    Cab Guest

    Hog wrote:

    1. CAA != FAA
    2. US != UK (well at the moment, at least)
     
    Cab, Jan 14, 2007
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    Hog Guest

    Oh look I'm cold, you know what I meant!
     
    Hog, Jan 14, 2007
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    antonye Guest

    That'd be the Colville Road works (known locally as "The Pit")
    then I guess? Don't know what the company was called but
    I know they used to make Spitfire replicas down there.

    So you were probably visiting MotorMec ?
     
    antonye, Jan 14, 2007
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    Lozzo Guest

    antonye says...
    I honestly can't remember who I was there to see, it was when I was
    managing a car accessories and sunroof firm based in Norwich, so that
    would make it about 1991 ish.
     
    Lozzo, Jan 14, 2007
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    ogden Guest

    Mauro Floriani ?
     
    ogden, Jan 15, 2007
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    andrew_wegg Guest

    About 55 airworthy Spits at the last count, about 200-250 existing.
    More Hurricanes flying each year, though still only a handful as
    they're hard to rebuild



    More German stuff than you might imagine especially since the end of
    the cold war, but little of it airworthy. Most the Ju52s aren't JU
    built but Spanish or French.... Jap stuff is very rare and only a very
    few flyers.
    Surprisingly many. 1 flyer and the one at Duxford flew in c.1980.
    Enola Gay and the other atom bomber both still exist and there's 10-20
    others.
     
    andrew_wegg, Jan 15, 2007
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    andrew_wegg Guest


    The authorities don't like military jets flying in civil hands dur to
    the complexity and potential for disaster if it all goes tits up. In
    mil service they tended to need an enormous amount of maintenance to
    flying time - something like a Lightning the ratio is something of the
    order of 40:1. The only Lightnings flying are in S Africa as the UK
    CAA won't authorise them. There's been less worry in the US, but a
    couple of high profile crashes recently has begun to change things.
     
    andrew_wegg, Jan 15, 2007
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    andrew_wegg Guest


    Maybe. The Czech airforce put a whole bunch of Mig21 up for auction
    end last year. Looks like these are some of them.
     
    andrew_wegg, Jan 15, 2007
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    andrew_wegg Guest


    Correct, but a couple of possibilities for the mid term future...
     
    andrew_wegg, Jan 15, 2007
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    andrew_wegg Guest


    Mostly Spanish built versions of German types
     
    andrew_wegg, Jan 15, 2007
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    ogden Guest

    And not even a 'heh'. Bastard.
     
    ogden, Jan 15, 2007
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    andrew_wegg Guest

    Dan L wrote:
    ..
    Indeed, then taken indoors, sold off to private restorers and replaced
    with plakky reps.

    Which one? They had two over the years...

    Most recently there was a Mk XVI on the gate, from 1970 until 1989,
    which is now in Florida and airworthy, before that they had a 22 which
    is now at Duxford in bits.
     
    andrew_wegg, Jan 15, 2007
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    andrew_wegg Guest


    Ain't no Tornados flying in private hands, not nowhere. There's a
    couple of stripped out ones that have been sold off but no flyers.
     
    andrew_wegg, Jan 15, 2007
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    andrew_wegg Guest


    I was hiding the hangar, flicking V's at you all. Or maybe it was
    after I'd left.
     
    andrew_wegg, Jan 15, 2007
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    andrew_wegg Guest


    No Hawks, but quite a few JPs, Gnats, Hunters, Canberras. You can fly
    the Hunter on a normal PPL, which is one of the reasons for the doubts
    about it all. Effectively you could jump out of a Cessna 152 with 40
    hours behind you, and if you had the cash, jump straight into a Hunter
    and bore holes in the sky. A few pilots have done something similar,
    with a bit more experience and there's been a number of deaths.

    The CAA in the UK allows "simple" jets to fly on the provate register,
    the most complex so far is the Sea Vixen. The LIghtnings never got
    near and there was an attempt to get an ex RAF Phantom flying but the
    cost and complexity of the attempt foiled it. There is a Buccaneer
    that should be flying in the UK soon, but it's being operated by a
    civilian owned firm that works for the military. Then there's that
    Vulcan...
     
    andrew_wegg, Jan 15, 2007
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