Amy Winehouse

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Lozzo, Jan 24, 2005.

  1. Lozzo

    Ace Guest

    You listen to it first, YTC.
     
    Ace, Jan 26, 2005
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    Champ Guest

    I listen to it first. As I said, only a modicum of self-respect :)
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    Champ
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    Champ, Jan 26, 2005
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    Ben Blaney Guest

    What I'm getting at is the origination of the use of the word
    "standard" in this context. For example, in my (fairly extensive)
    reading of the jazz scene in the U.S. in the 1940s and 1950s, all
    musicians were expected to know the standards.

    Then, when a new piece was written, it would be arranged and notated
    and distributed. There was no "listen to it first" because it hadn't
    been played before, or if it had been you might not have been there,
    and almost certainly wouldn't be available in recorded form.

    See what I'm getting at in my post from 05.39?

    As an aside, it's no co-incidence that the biggest big bands and swing
    bands were the ones with the best arrangers, because they were the
    ones who made the difference between new pieces being played
    competently, and new pieces being played well.
     
    Ben Blaney, Jan 26, 2005
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    Dave A Guest

    I'd say if it changes significantly it becomes a new version rather than a
    cover. How High The Moon, with a bangin' drum an' bass track and a middle 8
    rap by Eminem, quite apart from being an abomination, would be a new version
    rather than a cover. But you're right, standard and cover are not mutually
    exclusive.
     
    Dave A, Jan 26, 2005
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    Champ Guest

    Yeah, I understand all of this. In the field of pop music (i.e. not
    Jazz), I think the advent of recording has changed things quite
    significantly.

    Before the 60s (for want of a start point), being a musician was about
    playing/singing. It didn't imply any ability to compose/create - it
    was an interpretive art. It was quite common in the 50s for 3
    different versions of the same song, by 3 different artists, to be in
    the chart at the same time. Because music was essentially a "live"
    event, interpretation was everything.

    Once records and players became widely available, one could listen to
    a song 100s of times in your own home. The recording became the
    definition of the song. Most of the people who picked up guitars in
    the 60s didn't ever learn to read music - they learnt from the
    records.

    I realise you know all this, btw :)
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    Champ, Jan 26, 2005
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    CT Guest

    *snort*
    An excellent description - I must remember that.
     
    CT, Jan 26, 2005
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    spida Guest

    You also need the right steps and perfect pitch.
     
    spida, Jan 26, 2005
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  8. It was somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
    A perfect description of the last 10 seconds of '21st Century Schizoid
    Man'.

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    Dave

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    Grimly Curmudgeon, Jan 26, 2005
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    Eiron Guest

    A perfect ending to a perfect song.
     
    Eiron, Jan 26, 2005
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  10. It was somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
    <plays it again>

    Lovely.

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    Dave

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    Grimly Curmudgeon, Jan 26, 2005
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    Eiron Guest

    Apparently there are a dozen cover versions, according to
    http://www.coverinfo.de (which doesn't seem to be comprehensive.)
     
    Eiron, Jan 26, 2005
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