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Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by darsy, Apr 17, 2006.

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    Krusty Guest

    SO had the same over Xmas, & found that Corsodyl mouthwash really
    helped numb the pain.


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    ginge Guest

    Thanks I'll try that. I gave the hot salt rinses a go, but after a verse
    of "AAAARRGGGHHHHHHH!!!" with a chorus of "**** ME I'M GOING TO DIE!!
    THE PAIN! THE PAIN!" I gave it up as a bad job.[/QUOTE]

    It's good stuff.. I cut my gum a month or so back and I'm convinced it
    mended a lot faster after swishing that stuff around twice a day.
     
    ginge, Apr 21, 2006
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    antonye Guest

    Corsodyl was recommended by my dentist when I had the implant
    fitted to help heal the gums and keep it clean, so there may well
    be some truth in that.

    It tastes foul and temporarily stains your teeth though. It's also
    quite
    expensive as mouthwashes go (about a fiver for a bottle, iirc) but
    "it's not minty water like the rest of them" as my dentist says.
     
    antonye, Apr 21, 2006
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    Hog Guest

    Agreed, I used it after smashing my back teeth and waiting for the gold
    crowns to arrive. Didn't stain my teeth.
     
    Hog, Apr 21, 2006
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    Chris Cowley Guest

    The last proper punch up I had was at school about 20 years ago. I was
    bloody great though. I wouldn't fancy my chances these days but
    fortunately I can run quite quickly when suitably motivated.
     
    Chris Cowley, Apr 21, 2006
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    Krusty Guest

    Before you go rushing off to the shops, I think it's only available
    from pharmacies. It's more 'medicine' than 'mouthwash' iyswim.


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    antonye Guest

    You may not have noticed as it's not like an instant change, but
    a gradual one each time you use it. Use it for 6 weeks and it
    will change them by a couple of shades. It doesn't take too long
    to fade back though.
     
    antonye, Apr 21, 2006
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    ginge Guest

    They sell it in sainsbury's.
     
    ginge, Apr 21, 2006
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    antonye Guest

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    ginge Guest

    Well, I know where I purchased the bottle I have right now.

    Perhaps it should have been behind the counter there (as they have a
    full pharmacy too), but it wasn't.
     
    ginge, Apr 21, 2006
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    Switters Guest

    Thanks I'll try that. I gave the hot salt rinses a go, but after a verse
    of "AAAARRGGGHHHHHHH!!!" with a chorus of "**** ME I'M GOING TO DIE!!
    THE PAIN! THE PAIN!" I gave it up as a bad job.[/QUOTE]

    "On a scale of 1 to 10, where 10 is the worst pain you can imagine, how
    bad is it?"
     
    Switters, Apr 21, 2006
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    Krusty Guest

    If it's anything like SO's was, it'll be way beyond a 10 i.e.
    unimaginably painful.

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    Andy Bonwick Guest

    I haven't got a clue when it comes to qualifications for programmers
    but I wouldn't trust my bike to the bloke down the road who said he
    knew how to carry out a full service on it to the same standard as I'd
    expect (1) from a Kawasaki main dealer.

    I'm not doubting your personal ability or diligence when it comes to
    carrying out electrical work in your home. What I do doubt is the
    ability of 99% of people to do work to the same standard I would
    expect (2) from a fully qualified tradesman.

    I get people tell me my job looks easy and they don't know why their
    company pays so much for me to come in there and do the work. It's
    taken me over 30 years of gaining experience to be able to do my job
    even reasonably competently and I wouldn't like to think that because
    I can make it look easy the kid down the road can go and re-cut a big
    end journal on a marine engine (without taking the engine apart) and
    expect the ship to sail out of dock with no risk of engine failure. I
    tend to treat all skilled tradesmen with the same degree of respect
    that I expect (3) to be given when I do my job.

    (1) Expect being the key word.

    (2) It's that word again.

    (3) Funny how it keeps cropping up. I must be really naive.
     
    Andy Bonwick, Apr 21, 2006
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    Andy Bonwick Guest

    snip>
    I'll just leave this one with me disagreeing about an amateur being
    likely to do as good or better a job than a professional with the
    point that a professional with any degree of self respect and pride in
    his work will run rings around an amateur no matter how good they are.
     
    Andy Bonwick, Apr 21, 2006
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    ChrisDC Guest

    I'll agree with the sentiment, but how many of the people we pay to do
    a job (i.e. professionals) actually have self-respect and pride in
    that job, and of those, in how many cases is it justified.

    I had a previous Yamaha serviced by professionals at the franchised
    dealership from which I bought it new, for the first three years.
    During that time I paid for several valve shim changes.

    When the HP was paid off I decided to service it myself - and I am a
    skilled fitter although not with specific motorcycle qualifications -
    and I found almost half of the valve clearances were out of tolerance,
    and all were in similar condition, suggesting that none of the shim
    changes I'd been charged for had happened.

    This is why I would sooner do a job myself, as long as I trust my own
    competence and can afford to buy or hire any special tools required.
     
    ChrisDC, Apr 21, 2006
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    Pip Luscher Guest

    Today home electrics; tomorrow car or bike servicing. Then gardening,
    redecorating, and next month, choosing a suitable vehicle for
    oneself...
     
    Pip Luscher, Apr 21, 2006
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    Chris Cowley Guest

    Ding-a-ling.

    Note how I didn't say that an amateur would do a better job than a
    professional *should* do, but that a knowledgable amateur with the right
    approach is *likely* to do a better job than a professional. Carefully
    chosen words, and I stand by them.
    Exactamundo. It's a pity (for me) that I *can't* trust my own competence
    with motorcycle maintenance enough to do my own, but I would hazard a
    guess that a random selection of owner-maintained bikes would largely
    turn out to be as well-maintained or better-maintained than a random
    selection of "professionally" maintained bikes of a similar age and
    type. And that's exactly my point about DIY.
     
    Chris Cowley, Apr 22, 2006
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    Ace Guest

    It's not a good example, as in practice the MCSE is a qualification
    usually undertaken only by those without any relevant experience, so
    is a sign of someone to be avoided.[1]
    In my 20+ years of house ownership I've reached almost exactly the
    opposite conclusion - if you want a job doing well, do it yourself -
    most 'professionals' don't give a toss about quality and will try to
    get away with the bare minimum. There are, I'm sure, many 'tradesmen'
    who will do a proper job, but IME they're in a very small minority.


    [1] Apologies to any MCSEs here - I'm over-generalising, I know.

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