My parents are driving down to Italy for Xmas. The routes are "A43/E70 Modane FR via Frejus tnl to A32/E70 ITALY. Return route A22/E45 ITALY to A13/E45 Brenner pass AUSTRIA". Question is, do they legally have to have snow chains on any of those roads? -- Krusty www.MuddyStuff.co.uk Off-Road Classifieds '02 MV Senna '03 Tiger 955i '96 Tiger '79 Fantic Hiro 250
Could be on the Italian side I think. I always have a set with me. Best to google a bit. Skiiing and climbing forum sites may have info. TBH I wouldn't risk it where I go to without anyway. Autosock snow socks are an easier alternative by all accounts but may not be 'legal' and don't ultimately work as well. They could hire them from the RAC or AA I guess. -- +-------------------------------------------------------------+ | Pete Fisher at Home: | | Voxan Roadster Gilera Nordwest Yamaha WR250Z | | Gilera GFR Moto Morini 2C/375 | +-------------------------------------------------------------+
Buy 'em en route would possibly be easiest; they're certainly not expensive[0]. [0] TOG was most dis-chuffed when I managed to find a cheaper set than he did, a couple of years ago.
Not unless you already have the ice-racing spiked tyre on. I found this on a quick Google: Wheel chains: Important for any winter motoring. In the area of Val D'Aosta, vehicles must be equipped with winter tyres or snow chains from 1 October until 15 April. Krusty senior isn't going that way, but I did on the nordie in late October ten years ago. There were four inches of snow on the approaches to the Mont Blanc tunnel. Presumably motorcycles are exempt by virtue of a 'pazzo come aerostato per provarlo' status anyway. -- +-------------------------------------------------------------+ | Pete Fisher at Home: | | Voxan Roadster Gilera Nordwest Yamaha WR250Z | | Gilera GFR Moto Morini 2C/375 | +-------------------------------------------------------------+
Agreed, the hire co want 35 euros in March, but had non in stock, so I bought some for 15 euros from a shop and left them in the car afterwards (used twice, with blood on them)
Only if you forget to fit a litter tray - & only an idiot would do that. -- Krusty www.MuddyStuff.co.uk Off-Road Classifieds '02 MV Senna '03 Tiger 955i '96 Tiger '79 Fantic Hiro 250
Sorry, I really don't know how you'd be able to find out about any particular stretch of road without going there and looking for signs. I have driven as far as the Frejus tunnel from the French side and there's no way you'd be required to have chains there - it's neither high enough nor steep and windy enough to even think about warranting that. The Brenner Pass I've never been over, so I can't say for sure, but I'd say it's very unlikely indeed that chains would be a requirement on any Autoroute, even high ones such as this. In any event, IME the only time these sort of rules are ever applied are when the conditions are bad enough to need them fitted, and what tends to happen is that the police just stop everyone and make them fit their chain, turning back anyone not suitably equipped. So I think your question would be better phrased as "Are they likely to need chains fitted?" and the answer is no, it's not very likely at all. -- _______ ..'_/_|_\_'. Ace (brucedotrogers a.t rochedotcom) \`\ | /`/ GSX-R1000K3 (slightly broken, currently missing) `\\ | //' BOTAFOT#3, SbS#2, UKRMMA#13, DFV#8, SKA#2, IBB#10 `\|/` `
Thanks, I shall pass that on. -- Krusty www.MuddyStuff.co.uk Off-Road Classifieds '02 MV Senna '03 Tiger 955i '96 Tiger '79 Fantic Hiro 250
Mine, big hole in finger when I lost grip while fiting the chains. It was so cold I didn't actually feel it
