Air horns, anyone?

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by TOG@Toil, Feb 15, 2011.

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    darsy Guest

    I think I can beat that - in the early '80s in Bangor, NI, there was a
    Ford Cortina done up in Starsky-and-Hutch style, with a red paint job
    with the big white tick along both sides.
     
    darsy, Feb 16, 2011
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  2. Oh ****, yes. The W.of Scotland was replete with those.
     
    Grimly Curmudgeon, Feb 16, 2011
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    TOG@Toil Guest

    Didn't they do some sporty version? I have a vague memory of something
    orange and black. Like darsy after a punishment beating.
     
    TOG@Toil, Feb 16, 2011
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    Nige Guest

    Some window licking shitbag still drives around in a Transit van hand
    painted black with red A team markings, the fucking idiot has even put GMC
    on the front!!
     
    Nige, Feb 16, 2011
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    SteveH Guest

    Avenger Tiger.

    <http://www.simoncars.co.uk/hillman/slides/Hillman Avenger Tiger M
    kII%20front.jpg>

    My dad had a GLS - essentially a Tiger but in 'executive' trim. (ie.
    Rostyle wheels, vinyl roof, no wing, black velour interior and 6-gauge
    instrument pack)
     
    SteveH, Feb 16, 2011
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    TOG@Toil Guest

    That's the thing! Hillman's attempt at a Ford Escort Mexico. Doesn't
    look too bad, actually.
    Fast?
     
    TOG@Toil, Feb 16, 2011
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    SteveH Guest

    For an Avenger - I think.

    But he had it from new in 1975-ish and traded it for a brand new MkI
    Honda Accord 'Hondamatic' in 1979, so I was far too young to make any
    comparisons. Sadly he's no longer around to ask. I do recall him saying
    it was better than his Cortina - but I doubt a MkIII 1.3 Cortina was a
    ball of fire.
     
    SteveH, Feb 16, 2011
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    Charlie Guest

    John Cage's 4'33"?
     
    Charlie, Feb 16, 2011
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    CT Guest

    No, but it's probably the best thing for it.
     
    CT, Feb 16, 2011
    #29
  10. Not as fast as it went with either a BDA or the later Lotus lump out of
    the Sunbeam, as was done to a few of them. In fact the bloke I know who
    put the BDA lump in was an Escort man but he reckoned the Avenger had
    the edge once it was fully rally-prepped and that BDA in it, innit.
     
    Grimly Curmudgeon, Feb 16, 2011
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    SteveH Guest

    Just looked into this.

    The GLS was a 4-door GT, with the 1.5l twin-carb engine, so not quite up
    to Tiger spec.

    The Tiger was pretty rapid for its day - 0-60 in under 9 seconds, which
    was faster than an Escort Mexico.

    Allegedly, the Avenger had better handling than the Escort, too.
     
    SteveH, Feb 16, 2011
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  12. A real cross-country missile, then ;-)
     
    The Older Gentleman, Feb 16, 2011
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    Lozzo Guest

    Some sad bastard round here had a Chrysler 180 painted up as the Mad
    Max Interceptor. I ended up working for him at the bike shop recently.

    --
    Lozzo
    Versys 650 Inter-Continental Hyperbolistic Missile , CBR600F-W racebike
    in the making, TS250C, RD400F (somewhere)
    BMW E46 318iSE (it's a car, not one of those 2-wheeled pieces of shite
    they churn out)
     
    Lozzo, Feb 16, 2011
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    CT Guest

    Devastatingly so...
     
    CT, Feb 17, 2011
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    Charlie Guest

    Going back a generation of Rootes/Chrysler cars to the 60s, my father
    once took on a salesman who proved to be useless and was sacked. So Dad
    was suddenly long of a Singer Vogue Estate. He didn't want to take the
    savage depreciation hit of a nearly-new car, so he sent it back for a
    Stage 2 Alexander tune. I were nobbut a lad at the time and it was a
    glorious Q car, looking dull in its uninspiring two-tone green but going
    like ordure off a gardening tool. I recall it making the most
    wonderfully menacing exhaust note, too.
     
    Charlie, Feb 17, 2011
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  16. I used to really like them - if ever a car cried out for a big engine,
    that one did. A fecking 1.8 or 2.0L four-banger was a travesty.
    I see it was originally to have a V6 as an option...
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chrysler_180
     
    Grimly Curmudgeon, Feb 17, 2011
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    SIRPip Guest

    Back in my formative years, a close friend had one of them. He wasn't
    renowned for his taste in cars, but being on a tight budget as we all
    were then, he took what he could get, but took it to extremes. He
    replaced a perfectly good Triumph 2000 with the 180 as he thought the
    180 would be more economical and comfortable. It turned out to be
    quicker, but that was it. It was horrendously unreliable as well as
    thirsty (never bettered 25mpg) and a pig to start on anything other
    than warm, dry days.

    That was the car with which I discovered ballast resistors, come to
    think of it (thread swerve to the coil thread) as replacing the 6V coil
    with a plain 12V item didn't help the starting problems. Tracing the
    loom (to remove the fucked resistor) was given up as a bad job, and
    stripping the ignition switch resulted in hotwiring it for a week
    before we got our act together and did it properly. The starting
    improved then, but the overall reliability didn't.

    Changing the plugs on a hot engine (because it had flooded /again/) was
    a nightmare - I've prolly still got the scars on my wrists from the
    damned hot exhaust heat shield that ran below the plugs and wilfully
    obstructed access to the rear plugs. Number four in particular
    required a universal jointed plug spanner and a universal jointed wrist
    to boot.

    To sum up, it went OK, but wallowed like a pig in shit and drank fuel
    like a pig in cider. Having said that, other mates had things like
    MKIII Cortinas that were no better and at least the 180 had comfy seats
    (which is just as well, 'cos we spent a lot of time sitting in them
    when it broke down - again).

    Years later, I got to know a bloke with a 200 auto: no quicker, even
    thirstier and just as unreliable - but at least it had comfy seats.
     
    SIRPip, Feb 26, 2011
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    SIRPip Guest

    The Avenger was underestimated and overlooked, due to Ford's dominance
    in motorsport. The Avenger was the superior vehicle - lighter than the
    MKI Escort, stiffer than the MKII. It handled as well as the MKII,
    which is to say better than the MKI, but it suffered in the engine
    department as the 1500 was wheezy and thirsty in comparison to the Kent
    1600 and the 1725 put it up a class, against 2-litre cars, to its
    obvious disbenefit.

    One of the lads in a Devon motor club had a fast road prepped Avenger
    and was scratching for more power. Following a brainstorming evening
    in a pub, we pooled resources and slipped a 2-litre Pinto into it, just
    to see if it could be done. The Kent 1600 would go in it, but nobody
    had one lying about - they were all in Escorts ;-)

    I'm struggling to remember what the snags were, but they were various:
    had to bash the bulkhead a lot, even more than persuading a Pinto into
    a MKI Escort; had to fiddle a lot with the crossmember as the Pinto
    sump well was at the wrong end and fiddle even more with engine mounts
    as the Pinto block was so tall. There was a lot of midnight
    metal-bashing went into that installation.

    Did it in the end and that was a fast car, for its time - superior to
    comparable Escorts, for sure. Midnight drag races with RS2000s up the
    brand new, unopened dual carriageway ascertained that. Not as severely
    nose-centred as the RS 2000, either. He ended up with a proper-built
    all-steel 2.1 in that, as we saw him doing stage rallies in it and he
    did all right, too.
     
    SIRPip, Feb 26, 2011
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  19. I had a mate who had the Triumph 2000 with fuel injection.
    (Maybe they all had it?)

    He would often spend a weekend with his head under the bonnet looking
    for 10 mpg that had gone missing.
     
    Mick Whittingham, Feb 26, 2011
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  20. Agreed on all points, but then again, I was driving them as new cars
    (working in Chrysler dealership) and found the handling to be just like
    a larger Avenger. It was fairly planted, when hustling along. Time and
    wear takes it toll, of course.
    Istr the tappets had to be set hot, which was an uncomfortable and
    unpleasant job.
     
    Grimly Curmudgeon, Feb 26, 2011
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