Air compressors (refers: Aldi)

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Rudy Lacchin, Mar 1, 2009.

  1. Rudy Lacchin

    T i m Guest

    I guessed as much but beggars etc ..
    I can't say the tool itself was that noisy as such and it also worked
    pretty well.
    Nice. My idea was to test the concept of these tools via the cheapos
    then buy decent ones as / when / if it turns out I couldn't live
    without said.

    Today daughter was working on her MZ (taking off the small / broken
    screen, replacing the Kawasaki master cylinder with a genuine one) and
    I nearly fired up the compressor to try the air wrench but remembered
    I still need to get the PCL connectors.

    Cheers, T i m
     
    T i m, Mar 2, 2009
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    The Older Gentleman, Mar 2, 2009
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  3. Rudy Lacchin

    T i m Guest

    It's funny, when you try it to see how loud it is you think "hmm,
    that's not too bad" ... then you try to talk to yer mate when it's
    running.

    I intend to try to put mine in a sort of ventilated acoustic box in
    the hope it will at least take the edge off the noise.

    T i m
     
    T i m, Mar 2, 2009
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  4. Rudy Lacchin

    T i m Guest

    Hehe

    <Mac Mini running XP replies>

    No, to do that properly I generally keep back a few air-bombs (is this
    now back on topic?) and coincidentally found a floppy bay blanking
    panel in the garden this afternoon when moving the bikes about. ;-)

    To blow the crap out of a caravan I'm led to believe 1oz 12G 6's are
    pretty effective (and a good few boxes at that). <weg>

    T i m
     
    T i m, Mar 2, 2009
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  5. Rudy Lacchin

    Beav Guest

    I've got a raft of cheap air tools from Machine Mart (same stuff as Aldi
    arre flogging I'd guess) and none of them have failed spectacularly. Some
    have slowly died (a flat bed sander being one) but that was a tool I bought
    for a specific job and it did that, so anything else was a bnus. A bonus
    that lasted ~5 years.
    Unbelievable thing it is. It doesn't even require a gloved hand to soak up
    vibes or protect from icy wind.
    Not as noisy as the air chisel, but still annoyingly loud when compared to
    our Snap-on stuff. (D/A, Palm Sander, 3/8 Drill, air ratchets).
    The cheapo's aren't *that* bad, but the higher quality ones make a
    difference if you're using them regularly. For home use, there's no way I'd
    pay 120 quid for a mini D/Asander, but at the bodyshop, I would. Our "old"
    Snap-on normal sized D/A was ~180 quid IIRC, but it's been worth every
    penny. My Clarke home used D/A cost pennies (and not many of them) and it
    does the job, but not as quickly or as cleanly (the eccentric movement it
    too large on the cheap one), so I have to handball a job for the last bit
    before painting.
    Speaking of which, how's this for ridiculous. I can by any number of air
    tools/spray guns from Machine Mart which are advertised as "HLVP" (High
    Volume Low Pressure) but they don't fucking sell HVLP connectors, just
    normal PCL's which are too restrictive for true HVLP operation. They had NO
    fucking idea what I was talking about when I asked for them. Back to Sealey
    for those things.


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    Beav, Mar 2, 2009
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  6. Rudy Lacchin

    Beav Guest

    SAME AS THE ONE I'VE GOT AT HOME THEN. Noisly fucking things:)


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    Beav, Mar 2, 2009
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  7. Rudy Lacchin

    Beav Guest

    Along with the edge off the top of the pistns when it overheats. IOW, don't
    do it. Well not unless you can get good airflow through the fan and
    remember, the exit for the air needs to be roughly 3 times the inlet to
    account for expansion.


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    Beav, Mar 2, 2009
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  8. Rudy Lacchin

    zymurgy Guest

    When I apprenticed, I bought a 1/2" drive rattle gun and a 3/8" air
    ratchet.

    I used the air impact wrench every day, but the air ratchet sat
    gathering dust.

    Really, what's the point of them ?

    P.
     
    zymurgy, Mar 3, 2009
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  9. Rudy Lacchin

    Andy Bonwick Guest

    snip>
    The impact tool will **** up the fasteners in a much shorter space of
    time than the normal air ratchet. It doesn't matter if they're not
    your fasteners but when they are the difference becomes important.
     
    Andy Bonwick, Mar 3, 2009
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  10. Rudy Lacchin

    T i m Guest

    Same here really. I did buy a ~100000 piece socket set the other day
    off the market for a fiver and both of the ratchet wrenches were crap
    (as expected). However that's a very large box of spacers and bench
    press mandrels for the money. ;-)
    Yup, I started on that principle as a lad working on my mopeds etc.
    Buy the flywheel puller rather than put the bike in for repair so had
    it for the next time and probably saved money on the job at the same
    time (even if there wasn't ever an official 'next time' it could
    often be adapted and used for other things). Similar buying a decent
    circular saw and full 8x4 sheets of chipboard rather than loft_hatch
    sized floor boards when I bought this place. Job done, free saw and
    tools were much more expensive then.
    I notice some of the cheaper tools have such rubber sleeves and notes
    about which way the exhaust air blows (ie, not up yer sleeve or in
    your face). ;-)
    And probably to be expected (design / price etc). I think my mate
    (normally a Snap-On zone) has a Blue Point die grinder that does
    indeed feel 'better' than my £10 ebay jobby.
    Whilst I don't earn my living form such these days on a similar vein I
    treated myself to a Wi-Spy thingy that allows you to look at the WiFi
    spectrum to check for rogue transmissions etc. £100 well spent to be
    able to *see* exactly going on out there and quickly resolve the
    otherwise un resolvable. It's funny, many people will struggle with
    problematic WiFi networks and say they can't justify buying such a
    gadget yet will spend the same or more on something trivial that
    doesn't actually improve their lives one iota?

    http://www.metageek.net/
    Hmm, whilst I understand your enquiry I admit I wouldn't have
    consciously considered the coupler that way (as a potential air-flow
    restriction), well until now that is. And would the coupler have as
    big an impact on the flow rate as any filters / oilers / regs / hoses
    etc? What sort of HV gear are we talking about especially?

    I think I went with PCL because that's what a couple of mates had and
    they in turn had settled on them as being the most reliable / hard
    wearing out of the others they have tried. I think my garage owning
    mate uses a connector supplied through Snap-On.

    What is the connector usually supplied with these cheap air tools
    would you know please?

    Cheers, T i m
     
    T i m, Mar 3, 2009
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  11. Rudy Lacchin

    T i m Guest

    Erm, I'm not sure TBH but it's one of those things you do (I did) when
    you see something so cheap (compared to the price they have been for
    many years say) you feel you would be mad not to buy one.

    Having said that I've seen my mate in the garage using his rattle gun
    many many times from everyday (cage) wheel removal to unshiftable
    crank nuts (he even bought a more powerful jobby for the latter) and
    it does seem to work more often than not. However as with all this
    stuff you probably have to know when you should and shouldn't use
    them.

    As for the air ratchet ... undoing a whole bunch of nuts / bolts. of
    the right size (for that sort of tool) maybe? Or doing similar up
    *once* you have started them properly with yer fingers and know the
    threads are good?

    Cheers, T i m

    p.s. Tha Aldi air wrench is the only one of the three air tools where
    it won't go back in it's case once you have fitted the airline
    connector to it (well, not without some tweaking with a burr in the
    die grinder). ;-)
     
    T i m, Mar 3, 2009
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  12. Rudy Lacchin

    zymurgy Guest

    No, they're slow, noisy, cumbersome and shit for working on engines.

    HTH

    Paul.
     
    zymurgy, Mar 3, 2009
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  13. Rudy Lacchin

    Jeweller Guest

    Mine's a triple[1].
    Oil-free ex-dental lab jobby.
    Still no idea about how to get the best out of it


    [1]I presume you're talking about the pistons stuffing air
    into the tank.

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    Jeweller, Mar 3, 2009
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  14. Rudy Lacchin

    T i m Guest

    <puts ratchet spanner back in it's case>
    Maybe ours will appear on Antiques Roadshow in 50 years, highly valued
    as they have never been used and still in their boxes? ;-)

    T i m
     
    T i m, Mar 3, 2009
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  15. Rudy Lacchin

    T i m Guest

    Ooooo ...
    Hmm, they tended to use the Bambi pumps (which weren't oil free
    AFAIK).
    You won't be able to, sell it to me and cut yer losses. ;-)
    Yup. Is yours like this (bottom picture).

    http://www.bambi-air.co.uk/applications/medical-dental-general.html

    If it was I was watching one on eBay a while back but 1) It was *way*
    Up Norf (and collect only) and 2) ended up a bit rich for me.

    I now have one of those pumps on a 24l Wolf receiver (sort of
    Wolfenstine's compressor) and it works very well. There aren't many
    compressors you can run in the room next to the one she's watching TV
    in and her not hear it running at all. ;-)

    T i m

    p.s. If it's not the design in the picture you can keep the noisy
    bastard thing.
     
    T i m, Mar 3, 2009
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  16. Rudy Lacchin

    zymurgy Guest

    Heh, I gave my original one away (or swapped it for something else)
    and i've managed to acquire another one of the cursed things.

    Anyone want one ?

    Paul.
     
    zymurgy, Mar 3, 2009
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  17. Rudy Lacchin

    Jeweller Guest

    It's a noisy bastard thing from Germany.

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    Formerly: James Captain, A10, C15, B25, Dnepr M16 solo,
    R80/7, R100RT (green!)
    www.davidhowardjeweller.co.uk
     
    Jeweller, Mar 3, 2009
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  18. Rudy Lacchin

    Jeweller Guest

    Yes please!
    I'm beginning to acquire these accessories.
    Then I'll learn how to use them.

    The sand-blaster comes first.

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    Formerly: James Captain, A10, C15, B25, Dnepr M16 solo,
    R80/7, R100RT (green!)
    www.davidhowardjeweller.co.uk
     
    Jeweller, Mar 3, 2009
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  19. Rudy Lacchin

    T i m Guest

    Ah, meh ... ;-)

    T i m
     
    T i m, Mar 3, 2009
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  20. Rudy Lacchin

    T i m Guest

    Is it the 3/8" version, if so I might like to play?

    Cheers, T i m
     
    T i m, Mar 3, 2009
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