After a new chain the gear box/engine tone has changed

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Tim B, Jul 29, 2009.

  1. Tim B

    Tim B Guest

    I've had a new chain put on today and it now sounds like the gear box is
    under a lot of load. Anything above 3,000rpm is resulting in noise a
    bit like a car in reverse and doing 70mph results in a lot more high
    pitched noise. Similar revs with the clutch in and the bike sounds like
    previously riding at 6,000rpm.

    Other than that, feels the same.

    Is it common to have a (significant) change in tone with a chain change?
    I figure a new chain might be tighter.

    Tim B
     
    Tim B, Jul 29, 2009
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  2. Tim B

    zymurgy Guest

    Check the chain tension whilst sitting on the bike ... should be at
    least 30mm displacement or thereabouts. Any less and you're loading
    the cush drive and the output shaft bearings, with potential wallet-
    lightening consequences.

    Paul.
     
    zymurgy, Jul 29, 2009
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  3. Tim B

    Champ Guest

    Your chain is too tight.
     
    Champ, Jul 29, 2009
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  4. Tim B formulated the question :
    Did you check/fit new sprockets?
     
    Harry Bloomfield, Jul 29, 2009
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  5. Tim B

    zymurgy Guest

    Hmm, more succint then my response.

    I'm reminded of my school report "In the aim for brevity, you lose
    sense"

    Bloody English teachers, what do they know ...

    Paul.
     
    zymurgy, Jul 29, 2009
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  6. Tim B

    Pip Guest

    Yup.
     
    Pip, Jul 29, 2009
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  7. Tim B

    Tim B Guest

    Chain tension seems fine, plenty of play and even all around. It was a
    mobile guy and he brought sprockets for a CBF600 instead of a CBF500.
    He's coming back tomorrow to fit the sprockets.

    Went out on it again, with less traffic and without ear plugs. I must
    have the worse helmet for wind noise, but through the wind roar and
    without ear plugs the sound seems pretty constant and loud at certain
    speeds regardless of the gear at 20, 35 & 50mph. So possibly a sprocket
    issue. With ear plugs in, sounds like gears working overtime.

    I'll see what tomorrow brings. But wanted to know if a new chain could
    cause sound issues when I talk to the guy.

    Thanks,

    Tim B
     
    Tim B, Jul 29, 2009
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  8. Tim B

    antonye Guest

    Or badly aligned.
     
    antonye, Jul 29, 2009
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  9. Tim B

    Dave Emerson Guest

    A new chain with shagged sprockets = trouble
     
    Dave Emerson, Jul 29, 2009
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  10. Tim B

    Beav Guest

    Goes without saying. I've only ever had one chain replaced by a "mechanic"
    that didn't need re-aligning.


    --
    Beav

    VN 750
    Zed 1000
    OMF# 19
     
    Beav, Jul 30, 2009
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  11. Tim B

    Tim B Guest

    New sprockets fitted today. A significant improvement on the noise.
    It's now consistent with the speed of the chain (stays the same pitch
    regardless of having the clutch in or out), quieter, but still wasn't
    there previously. My guess is chains make a noise and this is a
    different chain and therefore has a different noise. The old one was
    probably cheap and O ring type, this is a DID X ring type.

    Tim B
     
    Tim B, Jul 30, 2009
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  12. If you have run the new chain on the old sprockets, it's probably fucked.
     
    Simon Atkinson, Jul 30, 2009
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  13. Tim B

    Ace Guest

    For one day? Bollocks. And we don't even know if the sprockets were
    fucked or replaced, as so often is the case these days, 'just in
    case'.
     
    Ace, Jul 30, 2009
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  14. Tim B

    Krusty Guest

    The old sprockets were new too, just the wrong size. If they were for a
    wider pitch chain, they may have fucked it a bit I guess. It'd be worth
    having a close look at the side plates to see if they've been splayed a
    smidgen.
     
    Krusty, Jul 30, 2009
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  15. Tim B

    Krusty Guest

    Ignore me, I misremembered what the op said. Damn Asda & their cheap
    wine.
     
    Krusty, Jul 30, 2009
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  16. Tim B

    Krusty Guest

    Might be worth checking if the 500 & 600 use the same size chain. If
    not, & he originally brought 600 sprockets, chances are it's a 600
    chain too, & therefore too big for the sprockets.
     
    Krusty, Jul 30, 2009
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  17. Tim B

    zymurgy Guest

    "Life's too short for cheap wine"

    Paul.
     
    zymurgy, Jul 31, 2009
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