Advanced training works! I'm _living_ proof.

Had to make an emergency stop from 170Km/h yesterday (yes, I know I
shouldn't have been going that fast anyway, but it was an overtaking
move gone wrong, on the new bike...) and I pulled up quickly and
safely. Thanks H.A.R.T.

 

Agreed advance training saved my life and the life of anouther aus.moto
member (and his pillion) 3 years ago (BMW ABS also had a lot to do with
it).

Boxer

 

glad to hear you pulled up ok - is the bike bedded in already - you
only got it what? a week ago?

Johno

Beer mate?

 

Got it 1st March. Done the 1st run-in period (4500RPM), now in phase 2
(6700RPM). 1000Km service on Friday.

 

And yet the "advanced" training never mentioned speeding or safe-overtaking
eh?

 

It does actually. Most of the times I've been there
they've limited speeding to 80Km/h and made overtaking
safe by dissalowing it.

:-/

GB, mind you, that's plenty fast for the hairpin at the
bottom of the hill and the variable-radius one over
the back!

 

You talking about Eastern Creek? When I was there that hairpin looked so
shiny (and tar-y) in the afternoon sun that it was heart-in-your-mouth
stuff! (Mind you; I WOULD NOT BRAKE until my brother braked first!!)

 

No, I'm talking about the teensy little circuit at H ART
(H0nda <mumble> R0adcr4ft Training) at St 1ves - the old
NSW P0lice Dr1ver Training School.

(I wouldn't know about eastern creek, it's too new for me
to have the layout committed to memory as a result of having
watched endless touring car races there on the telly as a
boy)


Here y' go, I found it on g00gle maps:

<http://maps.google.com/?ll=-33.709044,151.185533&spn=0.006283,0.010064&t=k>


... and constructed this handy key...

<http://www.accsoft.com.au/~geoffb/hart/>

- Dark blue - The 'bottom' circuit, the one I'm talking about
in the previous post

- red - the 'top circuit

- cyan - Called 'the skid pan', though it seems to generally
be used for training the truly motoring-impaired most of the
time

- green - the office, classrooms, lunch room, etc

- purple - the boss' residence (lucky bugger!)

- yellow - training ground - two (6 student) pre-learner,
and one pre-provisional class runs here simultaneously
(4 pre-learner, 1 pre-prov class per day, every day of
the week)

- dark green - some kind of road safety training ground
for little tackers

Speed limit on the top and bottom circuits has pretty much
always been verbally set at 80Km/h when I've been there. Going
anti-clockwise, there's probably enough room to crack maybe
120-140Km/h along the top straight and past the little tackers
school on the 'bottom' circuit and still pull up for the right
kink.

It's a narrow but fully lane-marked two lane circuit, and
classes run in both directions, but I've never seen either
circuit used in both directions at once - I guess that would
be asking for trouble.

The 'hairpin' to which I refer is the one at the bottom right
of the 'bottom' circuit. The 'changing radius' (which, on
looking again, isn't actually a radius change at all) is the
one at bottom left of the 'bottom' circuit.


GB

 

Knobdoodle wrote:
(Mind you; I WOULD NOT BRAKE until my brother braked first!!)

Scars or scares ?

JL

 

He said he knew he shouldn't have been going that fast, so maybe it _was_
mentioned.

A mate told me that his son (about 35) just bought a new Kawasaki, despite
many tears from his mother. Picked the bike up last Tuesday and rode it to
the nearest cafe so he could sit and admire it (and presumably be admired).
Had some difficulty with the (safety?) self-retracting side-stand and major
damage to the shiny bits was only avoided because the bike fell on his foot.
So now he can't ride it because of the foot. Oh dear!

Theo

 

I couldn't get anything on this link Geoff:
<http://www.accsoft.com.au/~geoffb/hart/>

 

Uhm, dunno what to say. It works for me...

Try:
http://www.accsoft.com.au/~geoffb/hart/index.html
http://www.accsoft.com.au/~geoffb/hart/honda_hart_st.ives.jpg

?

GB

 

OK this one works:
http://www.accsoft.com.au/~geoffb/hart/honda_hart_st.ives.jpgTa.

 

Didn't work for me (using Safari on Mac OSX).

I didn't bother working out what was wrong, but fishingt out the link to
the image from the page source worked (the second of your two alternative
links below).

Hmmm, just had a quick squizz... thats not actually valid html your serving
up:

<html><title>Layout of Honda HART Facility at St Ives, Sydney<body>

no head element, title is only valid inside a head element, no closing
title tag (or closing head tag)

try replacing that with:

<html><head><title>Layout of Honda HART Facility at St Ives,
Sydney</title></head><body>

big

 

Wow; what a detailed response!!

Now; how many people were going to St Ives?

 

/me rides around Leo and Clem with my hand on the hip!

 

I was sent there as a young takka to watch HWP training on the dirt on
750/4's after they nearly couldn't catch us on 90's up the fire trails.

 

Hey, my HTML editor[1] accepted it just fine, and I wasn't about
to go and consult some prior art to figure out how it *should*
be done - that would require effort!

GB

[1] vi[2]

[2] The One True Way(tm)

 

How about now?

GB

 

[1] Pisshead... offical sydney teapot franchisee!


G-S