Advanced riding assessments

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Pip Luscher, Jun 15, 2004.

  1. Pip Luscher

    Pip Luscher Guest

    Yeah, I've heard of Dave Corden. He seems to be part of a group that
    has several instructors around the country. Unfortunately, their
    website is out of date. Still, phone numbers etc. might still be
    valid.
     
    Pip Luscher, Jun 15, 2004
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  2. Pip Luscher

    Pip Luscher Guest

    Typical.
     
    Pip Luscher, Jun 15, 2004
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    SP Guest

    I've not heard of a 'group around the country', but he does now seem to
    be affiliated to Fowlers of Bristol, with his own silly nick-name too.

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    SP, Jun 16, 2004
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  4. Pip Luscher

    SP Guest

    That must be for newer riders, surely? If I was expected to spend a
    day in a classroom before going out I'd go mental!

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    SP, Jun 16, 2004
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  5. Pip Luscher

    Pip Guest

    Go?
     
    Pip, Jun 16, 2004
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  6. Pip Luscher

    Pip Guest

    In-joke, yes.
     
    Pip, Jun 16, 2004
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    flashgorman Guest

    You obviously missed the whole font/fount debate. Lucky you.
     
    flashgorman, Jun 16, 2004
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    dwb Guest

    Hmm - when I did one a few years back in Wilts, it was all in one day!

    What do they teach that requires a whole day in the classroom?
     
    dwb, Jun 16, 2004
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    Ginge Guest

    Retail Management. <g>
     
    Ginge, Jun 16, 2004
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    Dave Thorn Guest

    I did the one based at the Ace Cafe, just a few weeks ago (but before
    they raised the price by a whole fiver). It was all done in one day.
    You get some classroom stuff, then an observed ride, lunch, more
    classes, another observed ride, then a couple more classes and a
    goodie-bag.

    It was good, although half the instructors at my DAS place were
    ex-police so I knew a fair chunk of it already.
     
    Dave Thorn, Jun 16, 2004
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    Ben Blaney Guest

    Ben Blaney, Jun 16, 2004
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  12. Pip Luscher

    dwb Guest

    He's always done that - when you've heard him refer to the "full course"
    that's what he is referring to.

    A day or two in classroom, followed by assessed ride, at the end of which
    you (might) end up with a certificate.

    Dave's view has been if you're not bothered by the bit of paper, they'll do
    the on-road stuff with theory thrown in 'on the job' at a lower price.

    If you want the bit of paper, do the full course.

    I have actually done the full course (not with Dave), two years ago, hence
    my occasional reference to having an NVQ in motorcycling.

    I wasn't overly impressed at the time (mainly at the theory side of things
    [1])and ended up having a bit of a slanging match with the plod chap (the
    one who nicked Porl) who was running it at the time.

    As it is, I got me a £100 discount on my last insurance quote, so not a
    complete loss.

    [1] they'd shrunk 2 days down to one - and then it was all very "you will
    die riding a bike" rather then "this is how to stay alive". AFAIK the West
    country ones are still 2 days theory.
     
    dwb, Jun 16, 2004
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  13. Pip Luscher

    dwb Guest

    What was in the goodie bag?
     
    dwb, Jun 16, 2004
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    Zymurgy Guest

    <nods>

    However the RoSPA course he does may be better value for money WRT insurance etc ...

    I was happy with the 2 assessment weekends i've done though ..

    Cheers,

    Paul.
     
    Zymurgy, Jun 16, 2004
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    fishwaver Guest

    Try Martin Hopp at www.hopprider.co.uk

    Good chap and probably reasonable pricing. Also does an excellent
    machine skills course and instructed track days.
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    fishwaver, Jun 16, 2004
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    wessie Guest

    dwb wrote in
    I did it about 8 years ago when it was over 3 days. 2 in the classroom.
    At least 50% of the time was taken up by Martyn & Nigel's anecdotes. I
    note that Nigel's name is no longer mentioned on the website so perhaps
    he has retired or been reassigned. Without the banter between the 2 plod
    the course material could easily be covered in a couple of 2 hour
    sessions either side of a subsidised lunch in the canteen.

    I think having a gap to practice any new theory before the observed ride
    is a good idea. Then, if you can't get something right by yourself, you
    have the opportunity for a 1 to 1 with the observer.
     
    wessie, Jun 16, 2004
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    Mike Guest

    I've had my riding assessed by various qualified people using mobile
    aids. They seemed to concentrate more on my speed though.

    Didn't take them a whole weekend either.
     
    Mike, Jun 16, 2004
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    Dave Thorn Guest

    Thinking about doing it for that? ;)

    *thinks*

    Most usefully was a document wallet, which seems fairly rainproof (not
    tried it in anything heavier than a light shower so far) and good for
    fitting a few books in and strapping to the pillion seat.

    Earplugs, in a "THINK!" pouch.
    A couple of pens.
    A couple of badges/keyrings.
    Leaflets about bikesafe, insurance, thieves and death.
    Possibly one or two other bits and pieces, which I've forgotten about.

    But no cake, and no balloons.
     
    Dave Thorn, Jun 16, 2004
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    dwb Guest

    TBH, no - I've found training that works for me... it'll sound a bit stuck
    up, but the Bike Safe days (at least the one I did) are now a bit below the
    level I want to aim at.

    When I did mine a year or two back, it was good and needed - now I'd like to
    think I'm a (boring) safe rider with a low tolerance to risk, it's just
    the consistency that I sometimes lack.

    Therefore the theory is a bit useless, and the assessed rides will pretty
    much tell me things I already know.
    I have one of these already.. it's got "Tesco" written on it and I get a new
    one every time I go to the shop...
    Think earplugs?
    Handy :)
    No chocolate either? Just not worth doing!
     
    dwb, Jun 16, 2004
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    Zymurgy Guest

    heh heh.

    Was it on our weekend he pulled that really dodgy overtake into oncoming traffic ?

    My comment was "did you think you had your blues and two's on then Dave ?" :)

    P.
     
    Zymurgy, Jun 16, 2004
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