Accidents in Petrol Stations for Legal Expertwitnessing in Spain

We shall appreciate any data or reference about accidents in Petrol
Stations. We are working in legal expert witnessing report for a
Spanish Court of Law so any international approach is very welcome.
Our researching priority is people run over (Knocked down) while
walking in the petrol station.

You can see some references of our work published (in Spanish) at
http://www.miguelgallardo.es/atropellos
and
http://www.miguelgallardo.es/gasolineras

 

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It's really simple. Stupid **** not looking whats going on around them
knocked over by an equally stupid **** no looking what's going on
around them.

 

Hello Conor - welcome back to uk.legal.

What's your IQ today?

 

Thank you very much for your honest and sincere personal experience.
But now I am looking for trial sentences and expert witnessing reports
as well as for any serious study on this danger.

http://www.miguelgallardo.es/atropellos
and
http://www.miguelgallardo.es/gasolineras

 

We don't doubt you reason for wanting this information.

What is in question is your ability to see immediately that the UK courts
will not treat this incident any differently to one of similar
circumstances, but not in a filling station, such as a fast food restaurant
car park.

tim

 

I am looking for more abilities. Accidents in Petrol Stations are very
different each other, and every Court of Law treat them in a very
different way, even in the same Spanish city. There are very few
appeals so there is no jurisprudency, and accidentology has a lot to
do in order to improve signals, lights, geometry or advices starting
with a good phenomenology of well known dangers. For instance,
children and very old people are in serious risk near trucks that can
not see them below the cabin.

http://www.miguelgallardo.es/atropellos
and
http://www.miguelgallardo.es/gasolineras

 

I knew of a girl who got pregnant accidentally, behind the counter of a
petrol station, late at night, during a quiet spell..... her male colleague
had told her he "only fires blanks, so it's OK, we don't need a french
letter......."


We are working in legal expert witnessing report for a

Well, it WAS a *french* letter that they weren't using....

 

You are very kind. Thank you.


http://www.miguelgallardo.es/atropellos
y
http://www.miguelgallardo.es/gasolineras

 

These are the sort of people that give the British a bad reputation in
Spain.

 

Do not worry. Fortunatelly, this is not a football match with
hoolingans, but a survey for an Expert Witnessing report. I hope to
find a way to compare accidents in Patrol Stations of different
countries considering traffic, architecture an technical elements,
signals and walkers behaviours.

Any help is sincerely very welcome.

http://www.miguelgallardo.es/atropellos
and
http://www.miguelgallardo.es/gasolineras

 

You aren't likely to obtain any useful help in usenet/newsgroups. The
best you could expect would be to find one person who has had an injury
in a petrol station.

In English law, if someone is injured by a vehicle in a petrol station
exactly the same principles would apply to an injury in a car park or on
a highway. The driver of the vehicle would be criticised for failing
to keep a proper lookout and would probably be held liable. If it could
be shown that a pedestrian ran in front of the vehicle without looking,
then the driver of the vehicle would either be held blameless, or there
would be contributory negligence.

If you want to know how many accidents have happened in petrol stations
and in what circumstances, you can try asking
a) the owners of petrol stations
b) solicitors who represent claimants. You can do this by an
advertisement in the Law Society's Gazette or perhaps by emailing APIL
(Association of Personal Injury Lawyers) to ask if they are willing to
ask their members for feedback.
c) expert witnesses. There are none who specialise in petrol station
accidents so you'd have to find out what professional journals they read.

 

Well then go to a legal Library and do some work!
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For instance,

Then they should not be there.
You're looking for situations to blame vehicle operators, instead of
having pedestrians pay attention to where they are, such as idiot who
will step behind a car that is reversing.
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WHO will be the Expert Witness?
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Maybe, but this kind of messages can reach experts abroad, and some of
them have published documents or references that I shall appreciate.

In my experience, accidentes happend because:
1. People
2. Things (cars or any other mobile or non mobile)
3. Places, like Petrol Stations. I focus my phenomenology here.

I agree.

Good idea.

I am doing my best to become the first one. And my first step is to
ask to anyone that can help me a little bit.

www.miguelgallardo.es
www.cita.es

 

I am doing my best to become the first one. And my first step is to
ask to anyone that can help me a little bit.

www.miguelgallardo.es
www.cita.es

 

So you'll be hanging around petrol stations, waiting for accidents to
happen?

 

No, I shall try to get the accident videos and written reports in any
language in any country in order to learn how to investigate them
better and what can be done improving the security in any petrol
station. There are many videocamaras around, and one of my first
approaches is to get videos. I looked for some in YouTube, but no one
that I found is related with my research, at the moment.

http://www.miguelgallardo.es/atropellos
and
http://www.miguelgallardo.es/gasolineras

 

I have concerns about this. Someone who thinks that the best way to
research the causes and legal consequences of accidents at petrol
stations is to ask a bunch of random individuals on usenet about how to
do it doesn't sound like an "Engineer, Forensic Investigator and IT
Expert" as portrayed on the websites referenced below.

I'd take you more seriously if your website didn't look like the sort of
think cobbled up by the average nutcase.

Have you ever presented evidence in court?

 

Yes, I have. Beyond my personal experience, I work in a project for
audiovisual forensic technologies and legal transcriptions to text.
You have some information in English at www.cita.es/audiotext

And I have teach about forensic technologies to Spanish judges and
public prosecutors. However, I always starte my expert witnessing
approach watching and listening to anybody interested in the topic, no
matter what I already know about it.

www.miguelgallardo.es
www.cita.es