[QUOTE] Now be fair. People do fairly often warn you that they are about to turn on their turn signals: they start moving over slightly. That way they don't startle you with the flasking light on that side.[/QUOTE] Oh, those signals! I'd already switched to the new use (from observed behavior) of using them to indicate that the space beside me is open for the guy behind me on that side to move into. If you actually want to change lanes, a signal is a good way to persuade someone to maneuver to keep you where you are, unfortunately. It wasn't always like that around here. Al Moore DoD 734