about helmets

AGV Strada (polycarbonate of course), gr.1400, around $100. I don't think
there is a lighter, cheaper full-face helmet.

Gary

 

If you were to remove all that superfluous padding, you could easily gret it
under 1000 g.

HTH

Hammo

 

Mark G said....

MG> There is an old saying in motorcycling which goes, "If you've got a
MG> $10-00 head, buy a $10-00 helmet". The basic difference between cheap

And which is largely bullshit. All lids sold for road use here have to
meet a minimum standard, AS-1698.

 

Matt Palmer said....

MP> The cheap end of the market:

MP> * Are noisier (a *lot* frigging noisier);

Not necessarily true. A mate has an $1,100 Arai Doohan special and he
reckons that it's a noisy lid. Comfortable. My $700 AGV is as noisy as
my old, cheap Shoei. In fact, all the lids that I tried on before
settling on the AGV were all noisy. The cheap $200 HJC was no noisier
than the rest.

MP> * Made from space-age materials, so are usually lighter;

What? As seen on TV space-age materials??

MP> There's also often better air circulation and other benefits (like better
MP> anti-fog air circulation) in the top-end ones.

My expensive AGV still requires a Fog City type visor liner, as did the
cheap Shoei.

 

In aus.motorcycles on Thu, 23 Oct 2003 06:58:16 GMT

Yeah. You can tell how old it is by the numbers.

Way back when, there were no standards. No tests, no way to know what
you were buying, so you hoped expensive meant better.

Nowadays you do know. So I really wish people would stop trotting that
out like it was useful.

Zebee

 

True, true, they're up to about AS-5000 by now ...

<g,d&r>

-----sharks

 

The big change seems to be from ones where the visor has 'pods'
over the ends to ones where it just clips in. This used to
be only on expensive helmets, but it seems to be spreading to the
cheaper ones by now.

My $500-on-special-a-few-years-ago Shoei is a lot quieter than my
previous $200 Nolan, and the Nolan's visor ratchet broke rather
easily compared to the Shoei which is still going strong.

-----sharks

 

And if you want to stick you head in something that meets the minimum
standard buy the cheap crap.

If you want better protection buy a good quality lid, be it a AGV, Shoei,
BMW or Arai Etc Etc.

Boxer

 

The point is that you can get helmets that not only meet AS-1698 but also
the various snell standards without paying a fortune for them. Laser and
AGV (for example) both have moderately priced safe helmets that do.

Paying $1000 instead of 3 or 4 hundred is paying for finish, features and
graphics not extra safety.


Geoff and Jodie

 

In aus.motorcycles on Thu, 23 Oct 2003 09:52:59 GMT

Thre is nothing that says an expensive lid meets any higher standard.

Me, I am well aware that a helmet is only going to help a little bit.

If you spend a lot of money on a lid, all you are buying is a false
sense of security.

Zebee

 

A good quality helmet can be had for around $500.

A more comfortable helmet in my opinion is also safer.

Boxer

 

That's what they're counting on! (Otherwise they wouldn't be spending all that money on advertising)

 

"Zebee Johnstone" wrote

How far back? I bought my first helmet in 1964 (before the helmet law)
and it was Snell certified (I think).

Theo

 

There is nothing that says an expensive lid does not meet a higher standard.

No, you are buying comfort, build quality and reduced weight.


Tim.

 

In aus.motorcycles on 24 Oct 2003 06:15:14 -0700

Or that a cheap ones doesn't.

REduced weight maybe not. Comfort maybe not. Build quality probably.

Of the cheap ones I've had, they've been as comfortable as the expensive
ones, most have been lighter.

I think that spending $700 on a lid because you think it's "safer" than
a $300 one is a false sense of security. $700 because you like it is
personal opinion and no problem.

I am adamant that the best advice to a novice is $300 on the helmet and
$400 on rider training. Because I want the novice to keep riding and
have the best possible chance of staying together, and if there is any
safety advantage in that helmet price sifference, it's not going to be
anywhere near the safety benefit of the course.

Zebee

 

No the best advice is $500-600 on a helmet and $1,000 on rider training,
$500 on a Jacket, $250 on pants, $100 on gloves, $20 on a t-shirt,
$6.00 on underwear and $10.00 on socks.

Boxer

 

No boots eh!


Geoff and Jodie (who suggest spending some of the money on boots ;-)

 

$1.99 for a set of red thongs from woollies, just ask Clem.

Boxer

 

If you go "commando" you can afford three pairs!

 

Clem needs a *set* of thongs?! Talk about the atomic wedgie!