I'm still kinely ignorant. Also, I don't have enough time away from other interest, like golfing and ATV riding,TO READ every individual post down this interesting Thread.---------------- So, Here's my question?----------- <>''I've asked around, and am still wondering, How does one ride circles around someone''?---(kidding a Bit.)--- <>Well, Now, I know what riding in circles means, but what does it mean TO RIDE circles around someone else?? <>AND, I Know, that it's aimed at outRiding another Rider, I know this. Like a contest of Riding abilities.-(huh?) <>How is ''outRiding'' someone, proved? Is it a endurance thing? Mileage thing? please advise, bjaykana.......(grin) 'Ya'll take care'' --BJAY--