Aaron Yates Conduct - Will the AMA Do Anything?

Discussion in 'Motorcycle Racing' started by BWalters, Mar 6, 2004.

  1. BWalters

    BWalters Guest

    I used to be an Aaron Yates fan. Used to. He's the same amazingly
    talented racer that made me that way, but his conduct on the track is
    totally unacceptable. In 2003 he decided to lay down on the track to
    red flag a race. Now in the 2004 Daytona 200 he decided to drop-kick
    and head-butt a backmarker who he foolishly tried to pass on the
    outside. Aaron Yates is not a person who can legitimately get mad at
    anyone for causing accidents at the track. You can't blame him for
    ending Eric Bostrom's season last year, but you have to admit the
    accident was his fault. If anyone deserves a butt-kicking for a
    racing incident, he does for that one.

    The AMA should suspend and fine him heavily. If I were the owner of
    his race team, I'd find someone else to pilot my bike. He's a
    liability.

    So, what do we all think they're gonna do? Will the AMA actually step
    up and put the binders on post-crash fisticuffs? I hope they do!
     
    BWalters, Mar 6, 2004
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    J Phelps Guest

    Ditto. AMA will do nothing though. Yates is low class and pulls more
    bone head moves out on the track (e.g. Laguna Seca World Superbike
    last year) than any of the other top racers. Speed didn't have a good
    angle on this incident, but it wouldn't surprise me at all to find
    that Yates as more than 50% at fault on this one.

    JP
     
    J Phelps, Mar 7, 2004
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  3. BWalters

    S Frank Guest

    i was going to post the exact same thing you just did. I sometimes
    admire his hard riding, but he acts like a big stupid redneck sometimes.

    I don't think the AMA will do more than fine him and possibly take away
    some points (but of course he doesn't have any points now so I don't
    know if they will do that).

    I totally think the accident was Yates fault, but the fault of the accident
    doesn't matter. Shit will happen and he can't like that. That guy was just
    getting up and still looked a bit shaken. He could have been injured
    and Yates drop kicks him. I would hope that they toss his ass out for
    a year but then we would only have 5 people in the chapmionship!
    I wish Yosh would dump him and put someone else on that bike.
     
    S Frank, Mar 7, 2004
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  4. BWalters

    S Frank Guest

    Based on the fact that he was on the outside of the rider and
    turned in to him. Sure the rider moved over some, but he was
    getting ready to take that turn. I don't believe he had been
    given a move over flag, how was he supposed to know that
    an idiot redneck on a Suzuki was coming up to pass too closely.

    Yates also seem to hit the back markers more than just about
    anyone else in the AMA.
     
    S Frank, Mar 7, 2004
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  5. BWalters

    Ed Light Guest

    Yes, and he was jumping around like a monkey!

    Too much of a potential liability, and he doesn't seem like it when they
    interview him.

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  6. BWalters

    Ed Light Guest

    I think it was a Speed channel announcer last year who said that Yates was
    resented by lappers who say he pushes them out of the way.


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  7. BWalters

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    Julian Bond Guest

    I was watching the lap times and Mladin pushed for the whole race. One
    or two 49s, loads of 50s. The only person who could match that was Eboz,
    but Eboz was consistently half a second faster. The result was pretty
    inevitable. How many times have we watched a Ducati run like a rabbit at
    Daytona and then fade, blow up, crash or whatever[1]?

    So what is Duhamel's excuse? I know it was only 7 seconds at the end but
    weren't the new Hondas supposed to be a step above the Suzuki?

    Mostly it just seems to be yet another Daytona anomaly. Only 6
    competitive bikes start. 2 top runners and potential champions will now
    have to play catch up after DNFs against a bigger points handicap. Only
    3 bikes finish on the same lap with the next bike having been lapped
    twice.

    Then there's the formulae. Superbike looks awfully thin as teams and
    riders are sucked into Superstock instead. Similarly with 600ss where
    half the teams and the biggest manufacturer desert to Extreme. Except
    that Extreme doesn't have it's act together yet and the bikes are
    actually slower[2]. The whole thing looks like a mess to me.

    [1]Or the competition is gifted a pace car session. Not that anyone
    cheated of course.

    [2] So the Extreme bikes have "too much rear tyre" because they are
    trying to run superbike wheels and slicks? Well why not just run 600ss
    wheels and tyres then? I'm sure Pirelli could fix them up with
    something! ;-)
     
    Julian Bond, Mar 7, 2004
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  9. BWalters

    Ed Light Guest

    Have you seen that stuff at clubs?
    Back in the olden days of the late '60s when I was racing, nothing like that
    ever happened. The bar at which we met said that we were the most peaceful
    group that used it. (AFM South).
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  10. BWalters

    Julian Bond Guest

    Of course we now know that the problem was a holed oil rad so not
    necessarily any engine fragility. Except that they had the same thing
    happen in testing, so you'd think they'd fit a more substantial guard or
    something. You also have to ask just why there was so much stuff on the
    track.

    Whatever, it's still another Ducati Daytona DNF.

    It was surprising there were so many Ducati failures at Valencia as
    well. Haga's gearbox, Laconi's chain and Martin's oil failure. Just
    statistical anomalies?
     
    Julian Bond, Mar 7, 2004
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  11. BWalters

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    On TV they showed Chili politely counseling Yates.


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  12. BWalters

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    What's the IIRC abbreviation mean? Thanks!


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