A year with a Transalp and it is bye-bye time.

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Moon Badger, Jul 10, 2006.

  1. Moon Badger

    Moon Badger Guest

    The Transalp.

    One of Hondas finest machines. Underrated and overpriced.

    Replacing it with a Bandit 650SA in the one true colour.

    The Transalp is a superb bike, but see below.

    Short version. Make it a shaftie, fit tubeless rims and better suspension.
    Give it some sparkle, ie, more power. Make it a shaftie. IT IS TOO BLOODY
    BLAND AND IT EATS CHAINS.

    Long version below.

    Dear Mr. Honda,

    As a former Transalp owner, I could be tempted back in to the fold if you
    made the following changes.

    Firstly the suspension. Please fit preload and damping adjusters to the
    front suspension. Failing that, please alter the damping characteristics so
    the front actually has some feel when riding along Britains finest bumpy
    back roads. At the rear, please fit a remote preload adjuster as taking the
    battery out to up the preload is not a task to be lightly or regularly
    undertaken.

    The handling is actually bloody good. Peg down good on BT45s. The front end
    is vague to the point of removing my confidence in it though.

    Next, the brakes. Please leave them alone aside from installing braided
    steel hoses from the outset.

    The fairing. Actually quite good and thankfully easy to remove, as is the
    screen. BTW, your touring screen creates a low pressure turbulence at visor
    level which makes it impossible for me to ride at 30MPH or above with my
    visor open more than one click. The stock screen isn't too bad.

    Minor servicing issues next. Taking the fairing off to remove the fuel tank
    to allow access for carb balancing, changing the air filter, setting the
    valves etc is a pain, but I have got it down to a 10 minute job to remove
    it and 15 minutes to replace. Why, after dog knows how many years this
    engine has been around is it still such a twat to set the front cylinder
    exhaust valve clearance?, why is the front forward spark plug such a git to
    get to?.

    Wheels. Keep them spoked but please use edge spoke wheels so we can have
    tubeless tyres. Make the front wheel 19", keep the rear 17" and increase
    the rim width to allow fatter than 90/90 and 120/80 tyres.

    Comfort. Spot on. Keep the same riding position.

    Fuel tank/consumption. Why is the Transalp so thirsty?, after all these
    years, why is that engine not giving at least 50MPG average when its more
    powerful rivals can?. If you can't make it drink less, then give us a
    bigger fuel tank. What good is 300 mile comfy riding position when coupled
    with a 165 mile tank range.

    Clocks/controls. The clocks are clear and easy to read day or night. The
    only control I'd change is the dip/main switch. After a year, I'm still
    cancelling non-existant indicators. Please replace with a rocker switch.
    The levers are fine.

    The engine. Flaccid is one way of describing it. It needs some sparkle. Good
    delivery but dull. Needs 10-15HP more.

    The gearbox. Ranges between quite good and utterly horrible when changing
    gear. Neutral is but a dream when the engine is running and hot. Sometimes
    it snicks into gear like a Suzuki, sometimes it clonks and baulks like an
    ageing Jawa. The ratios. First is too high, fifth is about right, so can we
    have a six speed box with the current first ratio becoming second and a low
    first please.

    The clutch. Only just capable of coping with the massive output of the
    engine. Beef it up and make it a bit heavier please.

    Final drive. Why does the Transalp get through chains so quickly?. I suspect
    it may have something to do with the 6" difference twixt the output shaft
    centre line and the rear fork pivot centre line. Whatever. After 1 year and
    22,500 miles, the third chain and sprocket set is coming to the end of its
    life. I have never allowed the chain to run excess slack, nor have I ever
    over tightened the chain. I use a Scottoiler, it is set to run slightly
    fast. My chain is always well lubed. My previous work bike was an ER-5.
    That ran to 18,000 miles on one chain with no adjustment required. It still
    looked brand new when I sold the bike. Same brand chain and sprockets. Same
    oil used to lube the chain. Similar power output bikes. Doing the same job.
    Why the difference. Best bet is to use the Deauville shaft arrangement.
    Seriously.

    Fit a bloody centrestand as stock!.

    Junk the fugly subchamber.

    Improve the build quality as the Montessa built Transalps rot faster than a
    Brazilian built CG125 <MSOHP>. Stainless headers?, why are mine corroded.
    The paint on the silencer is flaking off. The heat shield for the belly pan
    has split. Furry nuts and bolts abound. Not good.
     
    Moon Badger, Jul 10, 2006
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  2. Moon Badger

    John Guest

    <snip>

    I only bought mine to replace the Dominator as a winter bike,
    It's a good, comfy bike, had it about 2 months, I like it.
    But it's really gutless, and is big and heavy for its engine output.
    Although I wouldn't want to go any faster on it.
    Much better 2 up, and for distance than the Dominator.
     
    John, Jul 10, 2006
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  3. Moon Badger

    OH- Guest

    Maybe you never noticed but the Transalp is meant to be
    able to handle serious gravel and light off road duty. For
    availability of tyres that makes this a joy rather than a
    struggle, for gods sake keep the rim dimensions that will
    take MT21's, T63's and Karoos.
     
    OH-, Jul 11, 2006
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  4. Moon Badger

    Moon Badger Guest

    I noticed. I tried. On the Trialwings it was sure footed on gravel and dusty
    trails.
    Do they not do 19" versions?

    I guess what I'd like in another Transalp is the wheels and power delivery
    of the Suzuki DL650, the shaft drive from a Deauville, better front
    cylinder access, DL650 fuel consumption, better controlled suspension but
    please Mr. Honda, don't arse about with the ergonomics and don't give me
    DL650 levels of vibration.

    I like Transalps. One of the best bikes I've ever owned. I've just done a 12
    hour day on it and I don't ache anywhere. It is a real pleasure to dink
    about on and a great working bike.

    Ged, what have I done. Buyers regret kicking in here now. Will the Bandit be
    able to live up to the mighty Translapper?
     
    Moon Badger, Jul 11, 2006
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  5. Moon Badger

    OH- Guest

    Aaah, the famous "Deathwings". No, seriously, they are fine for
    what the sane Transalp owner is likely to do. It's the nut cases
    that need more extreme rubber. On the other hand, if I didn't
    know what an extremist can do on a Transalp it would be nothing
    but a sensible bike to me.
     
    OH-, Jul 12, 2006
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