A puncture after 50 miles.

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Whinging Courier, Mar 21, 2005.

  1. It's a biggy too, on brand new tyres.

    Arse.
     
    Whinging Courier, Mar 21, 2005
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    Stritchy Guest

    It's the 'brand tyre new magnetism' innit.

    A combination of the heat involved in moulding the tyre and the metal
    banding inside sets up a very small electrical field that magnetises
    the carcass of the tyre.
    Consequently, for the first 50-100 miles every new tyre will 'attract'
    screws to them, causing punctures. This is why so many tyre fitters
    are based in metal-working industrial estates - it's good for repeat
    business!

    The 'scrubbing-in' process will slowly degauss the tyre. It's earthing
    through the tread and the non-conductivity of the tarmac that allows
    this to happen.
    Once the tyre is properly run-in/degaussed the chances of having a
    puncture are significantly reduced.

    HTH
    <wanders off whistling to self>
     
    Stritchy, Mar 21, 2005
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  3. Well put it this way, I didn't have to look for the hole...
     
    Whinging Courier, Mar 21, 2005
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    Muck Guest

    That's just plain unlucky mate. Can't be fixed? Could you run a tube in it?
     
    Muck, Mar 21, 2005
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    Pip Guest

    He shouldn't need to. Avon, right? The little fine groove that runs
    across the centre block of tread - that's 1mm deep, see. Providing
    you've not worn that out - and there's no way you'll have done that in
    50 miles(1) - the dealer will replace the tyre for you for a nominal
    charge. So a bloke in a pub told me once, anyway.


    1. My rear still has the groove after 4,500 not very easy miles.
     
    Pip, Mar 21, 2005
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    ogden Guest

    Who was it who said "Get Avons, they have a 1500 mile warranty
    against punctures" ?

    Tempting fate, dude. Tempting fate.
     
    ogden, Mar 21, 2005
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    Greybeard Guest

    Now that, is fantastic science.
    You explained that far better than Alf Einey did with his theory thing.

    Still utter bollox though but perfect all the same :eek:)
     
    Greybeard, Mar 21, 2005
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    Greybeard Guest

    Wanna borrer me trailer??
     
    Greybeard, Mar 21, 2005
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    Lozzo Guest

    Whinging Courier says...
    Avons?

    If so then take it back from whence it came, because you have a puncture
    guarantee with them if it happens in the first 1mm of tread wear.
     
    Lozzo, Mar 21, 2005
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    Muck Guest

    Sounds good.
    My next set of tyres will be Avons. I've got a rear to finish off and
    another part worn one in the shed, then the front will need replacing too.
     
    Muck, Mar 21, 2005
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    Lozzo Guest

    Muck says...
    My next pair of tyres will be whatever is sticky for the right money.
    Whatever they are, they won't be another pair of normal Dunlop D207s,
    it's like going back 25 years to when all tyres were made of bakelite.
    In all seriousness, I think BT020s have a far higher level of grip.
     
    Lozzo, Mar 21, 2005
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    Muck Guest

    I tried Michelin Macadam 100x on the Bandit once, never again. Those
    were so shite in the wet, but ok(ish) in the dry.

    Some sticky tyres would be good for the FZR, but it's got odd sizes, as
    in small. So.... tyre choice will be limited. BT45s it is then. ;)
     
    Muck, Mar 21, 2005
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    Lozzo Guest

    Muck says...
    What sizes does it take?
     
    Lozzo, Mar 21, 2005
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    Muck Guest

    100/80 - 17 front
    130/70 - 17 rear
     
    Muck, Mar 21, 2005
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    WavyDavy Guest

    Didn't I put BT39s on it, with an SS on the front? Don't know if you can
    still get them but they are/were used for production 125 racing and, given
    the FZRs speed limiter and so isn't much faster than a tuned 125, were a
    very nice choice of tyre, IMHO and much better than BT45s....

    Dave
     
    WavyDavy, Mar 21, 2005
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  16. Maybe. If I can't get something sorted out quickly tomorrow, then yes.

    Cheers.
     
    Whinging Courier, Mar 21, 2005
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  17. I knew they had a puncture guarantee but wasn't sure how they could tell
    the mileage. Now I do.

    Ta.
     
    Whinging Courier, Mar 21, 2005
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    WavyDavy Guest

    Bad form etc etc etc.

    Bridgstone still list the BT39SS in a 100/80-17F and the BT39 in a
    130/70-17R.... So I'd definitely recommend you get them over the 45s which
    even Bridgstone market as a "touring type tyre" these days....

    Dave
     
    WavyDavy, Mar 21, 2005
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    Lozzo Guest

    Muck says...
    Go for 110/70-17 front and a 140/70-17 and then choose tyres suitable
    for the current crop of race rep 400s, something like these perhaps?

    http://www.dunloptyres.co.uk/bike/radial/gpr70/index.html

    http://www.dunloptyres.co.uk/bike/radial/gpr80/index.html

    http://www.bridgestone-eu.com/bfe/v/index.jsp?vgnextoid=
    00000000000000000000001_2_299articleRCRD&vgnextchannel=
    000000000000000000000000000000000396RCRD

    http://www.bridgestone-eu.com/bfe/v/index.jsp?vgnextoid=
    00000000000000000000001_2_260articleRCRD&vgnextchannel=
    000000000000000000000000000000000396RCRD

    HTH
     
    Lozzo, Mar 21, 2005
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    Muck Guest

    I had a word with the local bike shop, and they said those tyres weren't
    made any more. Dunno how factual that is though. I do like the BT39s, if
    I could get something equivalent I'd be happy.

    Do you know where the limiter is, and if I put a kmh to mph converter
    gearbox on the cable, is it going to limit it to some low speed?
     
    Muck, Mar 21, 2005
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