A profitable waste of a Sunday by the looks of it

Discussion in 'Classic Motorbikes' started by Timo Geusch, Jan 29, 2006.

  1. Timo Geusch

    Krusty Guest

    Krusty, Jan 31, 2006
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    Ken Guest


    Not as wierd as owning a 79 Fantic 250.........................lol

    k
     
    Ken, Jan 31, 2006
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  3. That doesn't, though knowing this, if ever I come across anyone else who
    has owned such a combination, I shall treat them with the utmost
    suspicion...

    /waves/
     
    Rusty Hinge 2, Jan 31, 2006
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  4. Timo Geusch

    Krusty Guest

    Ah - I'd better keep quiet about when I had an R80GS & Ducati MHR at
    the same time then...

    Actually that might be ok as the GS is generally considered a 'cool'[1]
    bike.

    [1] For BMW values of cool.


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    Krusty, Jan 31, 2006
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  5. There! And I've only ever had one BMW (which I still have) and it's only
    the second non-British bike I've ever had.

    I've had a few bits of foreign ones - a DKW 500 twin engine, several
    Rumi engines, but not enough to do the dastardly deed I was
    contemplating - chopping off the gearboxes and mounting the engines
    (125cc two-stroke twins) in a (500cc) 90° V8 formation, driving on to a
    single shaft through a Norton box. That was mid '60s. If I could get the
    Rumi engines now, I'd like to have another go at that.
     
    Rusty Hinge 2, Jan 31, 2006
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  6. I understand the engines of the Rumi scooter are unit construction and
    you can keep bolting on more pots on the non power take of side. I had a
    mate with a Moto Rumi scooter with three pots. His foot would rest on
    one as he rode it.
     
    Mick Whittingham, Jan 31, 2006
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  7. Timo Geusch

    'Hog Guest

    Hmm I think I had an R100S, an RD400 and a TS250 all at one time. Would
    be 1983ish
     
    'Hog, Jan 31, 2006
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  8. The message <$>
    Interesting - but since it was a 180° crank, you'd need to do some
    fiddling with the ignition. Really, you'd need three of them at 120° to
    get the best balance.
     
    Rusty Hinge 2, Jan 31, 2006
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  9. I know no more. The guy was in the last year of his engineering
    apprenticeship and very capable. I don't know if it was two together one
    on its own. But knowing the guy it would have been a 120° split.

    One of the apprentices I started with was machining bits up for his
    dad's 1000cc Club (?)[1] single seat race car.

    Rear engine jobby.

    Four Aerial Arrow engines with the nuts tuned off of them, gearboxes cut
    off driving a common shaft, onto a clutch and ZF gearbox/axle. The lot
    was cased in perspexs with a bit air scoop for cooling behind the
    drivers head.

    Sounded AWESOME!

    [1] SWK will belong to say what race category it was in.
     
    Mick Whittingham, Jan 31, 2006
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  10. Well at the time I had a 150 mile round trip to work, and using the RD400
    for that would have lost me my job in no time, my boss would have tired of
    "the bike broke down again" pretty quickly I think.

    The difference between these did cause one little incident. I was using
    the BM and I lent the RD to a mate, I think his KH250 was playing up. We
    went to the pub one evening and, fortified by a jar or two, I fancied
    riding the RD home. The pub is at the end of a long straight with a
    sharpish bend at the end. So I hacked off down the straight and chucked
    the RD round the bend, looked behind and there he wasn't. So I went back
    and found a kindly passing driver assisting my mate to get the BM out of
    the ditch. He fancied himself as a fast rider (and was indeed generally
    faster than me) and wasn't letting me get away. But he'd never been round
    a corner on a BM before:)

    Regards, Ian
     
    Ian Northeast, Jan 31, 2006
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  11. The message <>
    from Mick Whittingham <> contains these words:

    /rumi/
    Well, the layout is a crankcase and gearbox in unit, split horizontally.
    IIRC the barrels are a single casting, and when that and the top half of
    the crankcase is removed, the precisely engineered and glittering
    internals are laid out, reminiscent of the sort of thing you see when
    opening a watch.

    The crank has four full circle flywheels, balanced and I think, padded
    Get the lead in that, and no-one following would have a clear enough
    view to get past...
    Probably smelt like a regiment of lawn-mowers.

    Which reminds me of an old fiend from my café racer period - he had a
    souped-up Arrow, and people would ask him what lube he used in the oil,
    and he's say "Castrol R."

    Then there'd be the disbelief, "But - R isn't miscible with petrol!" but
    as he smoked-off, you could smell the stuff. He confided to me (who used
    R in the KTT and one Douglas, and *KNEW* it wasn't miscible) that he
    used to put a tablespoon of R to the gallon of petrol, and that was
    enough for the smell. It caused a lot of argument amongst those who
    didn't know what he did.
     
    Rusty Hinge 2, Jan 31, 2006
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    Um - I've never found cornering very different - or does that come from
    having had a large Douglas stable?
     
    Rusty Hinge 2, Jan 31, 2006
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  13. the R65 does...
     
    Austin Shackles, Feb 1, 2006
    #53
  14. ooer. wot is it?
     
    Austin Shackles, Feb 1, 2006
    #54
  15. that's just perverted.
     
    Austin Shackles, Feb 1, 2006
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    R80 with as yet unattached sidecarriage.

    Was intended for right-mounting, but the suspension has now been chopped
    off and remounted on the bottom of the chassis so it will dress to the
    left - as is proper.
     
    Rusty Hinge 2, Feb 1, 2006
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  17. Timo Geusch

    Naqerj Guest

    As it happens, the latest issue of La Vie de la Moto, wot has dropped on
    my doormat this very day, has quite a few pages devoted to various
    aspects of the Rumi. There's a handy picture of the innards with the
    crankcase halves separated. 'Tis indeed unit construction, the cases
    split horizontally but it looks like a quick bit of work with a hacksaw
    could separate engine from gearbox. There's even a handy "cut along
    here" groove in the casting.

    One of the articles mentions one Guiseppe Fabri who made several
    Rumi-engined machines with 3, 4, 6 and 8 cylinders - there's a photo of
    the 4 cylinder bike. Also a Rumi converted to DOHC by Felice Rolla.
     
    Naqerj, Feb 3, 2006
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