A new weave/wobble....

Discussion in 'Motorbike Technical Discussion' started by Scott, May 28, 2009.

  1. Scott

    ¿ Guest

    Road speed and stroking speed are not directly related, auld sod.
    That's why
    externally tunable shocks were invented.

    Always remember, I'm a cracker. You can eat me.
     
    ¿, May 29, 2009
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  2. Scott

    ¿ Guest

    My advice was to break it
    So, how many bodged Hondas have you sold to unsuspecting ebay
    customers, hmmmm?

    And what has your gang of gypsies done to Spacker?

    Remember: I'm a cracker; you can eat me.
     
    ¿, May 29, 2009
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  3. Scott

    TOG@Toil Guest

    And any handling or braking imperfection is always going to show up
    more at higher speed when there's more stress imposed. About the only
    exception I can think of is over-tight head races, which always seem
    worse at low speed than high, for some reason. Or maybe i've never
    been brave enough to try them at high speed.

    According to your logic, ride the bike at 5mph and it'll be awful.
    Ride it at 100 and it'll be fine.

    Yeah, ri-iight.

    You know, I really do have a *lot* more experience here than you.
     
    TOG@Toil, May 29, 2009
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  4. Scott

    TOG@Toil Guest

    Absolutely. But I'm not stupid enough to suggest in a tech ng that
    road tyres will die in a few hours, and that this could be the cause
    of a poster's handling problems.
     
    TOG@Toil, May 29, 2009
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  5. Scott

    TOG@Toil Guest

    None. Why do you ask?
    Ah, here we go again. ISTR the last time you took this course of
    action, you made yourself look silly by declaring that I'd evaded
    import duties by selling my dead Tenere in Germany. You went off on
    another tack *very* smartly when you were reminded that there aren't
    any such duties in the EU single market.

    Oh yes, and then you declared something about me beating down a seller
    on price for a dead Honda, only to have it pointed out that it was an
    eBay auction and that therefore mine had been the *highest* price
    offered for it.

    <Settles down in anticipation>

    What have you got for us this time, Poor Stupid American?
     
    TOG@Toil, May 29, 2009
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  6. Scott

    ¿ Guest

    Your cottage experiences don't count.

    Nevertheless, I'm a cracker. Eat me.
     
    ¿, May 29, 2009
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  7. Scott

    ¿ Guest

    Have the court clerk read the record back to where I said that road
    "tyres"
    will deaden in a few hours.

    BTW, I'm a cracker, eat me.
     
    ¿, May 29, 2009
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  8. Scott

    ¿ Guest

    Bla bla bla.

    Jusy answer the question. What has your terrorist gypsy gang done to
    poor Spacker?

    BTW, I'm a cracker, eat me.
     
    ¿, May 29, 2009
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  9. Scott

    Who Me? Guest

    Yes but that's mostly a different subject.
    It's too late for "preventive" when you already have a problem.
    Fix the problem first (if possible) and then catch up on the other stuff it
    made you think of.

    We have at least one person here who thinks "preventive maintenance" means
    stopping every 15 minutes to check your oil !!!
     
    Who Me?, May 29, 2009
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  10. Scott

    TOG@Toil Guest

    The usual reaction to when your imbecilities are exposed.
    If you insist. What terrorists, what gang? And AFAIK nobody's done
    anything to the sad little inadequate that you've unsurprisingly
    teamed up with. Why not try x-posting this and ask?

    Now, remind me about those duties again...
     
    TOG@Toil, May 29, 2009
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  11. Scott

    Who Me? Guest

    Yea, yea.....and we know your shit don't stink either.
    But a person's ***perception*** can "go off" in a few minutes.
    And the perception is often more compelling than reality.
     
    Who Me?, May 29, 2009
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  12. Scott

    TOG@Toil Guest

    In the context, that's what you implied. If you didn't mean it to be
    taken in context, it was an utter irrelevance. Have fun
     
    TOG@Toil, May 29, 2009
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  13. Scott

    Bob Scott Guest

    Just a touch - indicated 110mph, fast lane of the A1. Locked the back
    wheel solid. Exciting. IIRC no 2 big end was solid when we stripped the
    engine. Threw most of it into a handy skip.
    Second one ate the charging system then started to make some very funny
    noises. By that point I thought "soddit" and kept riding it till it
    would only run on two cylinders. They don't make for a sprightly 450
    twin.

    Left it propped up against the front of my house with the keys in the
    ignition and some bugger only nicked the keyring.
    []
    Eek, that beats my pal who bought a KH400, lifted the heads for a decoke
    & found a penny araldited to a piston crown. Underneath the penny there
    was a hole...
     
    Bob Scott, May 29, 2009
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  14. Scott

    ¿ Guest

    Sounds apochryphal to me...
     
    ¿, May 29, 2009
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  15. Scott

    ¿ Guest

    Your problem is that you think too much. Next time you imagine an
    implication, just let it go, m'kay?

    BTW, I'm a cracker. Eat me.
     
    ¿, May 29, 2009
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  16. Scott

    Scott Guest

    Come to think of it, yes, I believe it does. That would move the CG
    downward and reduce oscillation in the rear suspension. Makes sense.
    Thanks for the recommend, I will look for some.
    Don't know that it's possible. The axle doesn't screw into a fork leg, it
    just goes through the wheel and gets clamped to the ends of the forks.
    ....and I just tightened the chain, -and- the chain is worn out. That makes
    sense too.
     
    Scott, May 29, 2009
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  17. Scott

    ¿ Guest

    No.

    The same strategy works with *cars*, and a car's CG certainly doesn't
    shift very much when you add power to the rear tire's contact patches.

    But it does cause the rear suspension to work "on a bind" as the
    NASCAR oval track burners would say, and you gain control in the
    turns.

    The inability of a hydraulic shock to dampen low-amplitude, low
    frequency motions of the rear suspension is overcome by downshifting a
    gear and gassing it.
     
    ¿, May 29, 2009
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  18. Scott

    TOG@Toil Guest

    Better than not thinking at all, which is your problem. Now, where can
    I buy these run-flat tyres you say have been on sale for 20 years?
     
    TOG@Toil, May 29, 2009
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  19. Scott

    TOG@Toil Guest

    <VVBG>

    You'll have half a new bike by the time you're done :))
     
    TOG@Toil, May 29, 2009
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  20. Scott

    ¿ Guest

    Have you asked your local Bridgestone dealer?

    I'm a cracker. Eat me.
     
    ¿, May 29, 2009
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