A bit more complicated

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by BGN, Dec 20, 2005.

  1. BGN

    BGN Guest

    I'm sure some of you are familiar with the saga of my naff old chain
    which was in need of replacement a month or so ago because of an
    annoying crunching sound from the sprockets. In addition to that the
    rear drum also seized on a trip to Belgium on Saturday.

    I took Mr. ER-5 into my usual Bike Shoppe and said, "Good Sir, can you
    please provide and fit a new chain and sprocket set, fit new front
    brake pads and fix the seized rear brake?" which they most happily did
    at no notice whatsoever.

    I just came back from picking it and the bloke at the desk greeted me
    with, "That crunching and whurring sound wasn't all coming from your
    chain and sprockets even though they were badly worn. Have you felt
    any odd crunches recently?"

    "I did feel a bit of a bump when I'd just arrived back into Dover late
    last week but I associated it with the rear brake which I'd hit with a
    spanner before getting off the ferry as it had seized"

    He went on to explain that the rear wheel bearing unit had collapsed
    which caused the bearings to spill out. He said I was very fortunate
    not to have had it lock up.

    It's all been replaced now and I've got a bill for £144.20 for it all,
    which includes the new bearing unit, pads plus the chain and sprocket
    set.

    All appear to be working fine, but the buggers have splodged up the
    front brakes again which are now spongy, but they're not nearly as bad
    as they were last time they fucked them up. I'll gaffer-tape the
    front lever to the bar while I'm at work tomorrow to see if that
    helps. Bleeding the brakes seems to be a simple enough procedure, but
    the Haynes manual marks it as "four spanners" which usually translates
    into "buy a new bike" if you're me.
     
    BGN, Dec 20, 2005
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  2. Cheap at the price, IMHO.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Dec 20, 2005
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  3. BGN wrote

    Wot TOG said.

    Although it does seem to me you are having more than your fair shares of
    issues with the bike. How many miles have yo done on it, in how long?


    Theoretically yes.
     
    steve auvache, Dec 20, 2005
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  4. In uk.rec.motorcycles, BGN amazed us all with this pearl of wisdom:
    Indeed.
    That doesn't sound too bad, actually.
    Or an extra pair of hands.
     
    Whinging Courier, Dec 20, 2005
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  5. BGN

    Dr Zoidberg Guest

    Yep , it would potentially have cost you half that to buy the bits and for
    someone without much experience in these matters it'd take a good few hours
    work.
    Fine if you want to learn how to do these things and have someone with a
    clue to help , but not for everyone
    --
    Alex

    Hermes: "We can't afford that! Especially not Zoidberg!"
    Zoidberg: "They took away my credit cards!"

    www.drzoidberg.co.uk
    www.ebayfaq.co.uk
     
    Dr Zoidberg, Dec 20, 2005
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  6. In uk.rec.motorcycles, Dr Zoidberg amazed us all with this pearl of
    wisdom:
    I don't know, you know. I'd have thought a C&S set on its own would be
    close to, if not more than £100.

    Anyway, being cold and wet and working on a bike is no fun so it's worth
    the extra to get someone else to do it.

    Co-incidentally, that's exactly what I'll be doing with my car. £160 I
    got quoted for ball-joint and arm, CV boot and rear suspension bushes.

    Bargain.
     
    Whinging Courier, Dec 20, 2005
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  7. BGN

    BGN Guest

    13,000 miles since 8th March this year. That's 13,000 miles since the
    day I passed my test.

    I don't think I've had too many things go wrong with it, most of the
    problems are just things that have recurred as I didn't fix it
    properly to start off with or had little niggles attached to it.

    1) Chain: I tried to adjust it, but That Fucking Bar had a corroded
    nut on the rear drum that meant I couldn't make any adjustment until I
    filed the nut off, I then adjusted the chain to try to give it a bit
    more life. Bike shoppe adjusted chain again when it had its 20,000
    mile service. Bike shoppe replaced chain at my request today after
    another 3,000 miles went by. If I'd just replaced the chain 5,000
    miles ago then it wouldn't have been an issue but I wouldn't have
    learned so much in that time either.

    2) Choke cable snapped at around 20,000 miles.

    3) Rear drum has seized a couple of times, but I can now put that down
    to the rear bearing unit collapsing and the generally shit weather.

    I can put down most of the other niggles down to throwing it into a
    ditch in April.

    The bike is used in all weathers and isn't put in a garage at all - it
    sits out all day and night in the rain and still starts on the first
    go. It's been abused so much in the time it's been in my hands but it
    keeps chugging along. It's probably going to be the most reliable
    bike I ever own. Even when I buy a replacement I'll keep it to have
    some fun on and as a winter hack.
     
    BGN, Dec 20, 2005
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  8. BGN

    BGN Guest

    On Tue, 20 Dec 2005 19:05:26 +0000,
    Quite. I'm more concerned that I carried a pillion 10 miles home on a
    motorway with collapsed bearings. I'm beginning to feel that I've
    been a bit too fortunate in my 'biking career' so far.

    Too many pies.
    I didn't obtain a receipt but the price worked out something like:

    £88 Chain and sprocket set[1]
    £10 Bearing unit
    £15 Front pads

    + tax.

    [1] I'm not sure what model it is, he said he ordered me the 'better'
    one as he knows I do a lot of miles in all weather
     
    BGN, Dec 20, 2005
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  9. BGN

    BGN Guest

    We might need some extra equipment.
     
    BGN, Dec 20, 2005
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  10. BGN

    Dr Zoidberg Guest

    It's not a particularly high powered bike , so a cheapie unbranded pattern
    parts set wouldn't be too much , but I could be wrong as usual.
    Oh yes.
    --
    Alex

    Hermes: "We can't afford that! Especially not Zoidberg!"
    Zoidberg: "They took away my credit cards!"

    www.drzoidberg.co.uk
    www.ebayfaq.co.uk
     
    Dr Zoidberg, Dec 20, 2005
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  11. BGN

    ginge Guest

    Normally all you need is:

    8 or 10 mm spanner
    length of tube
    empty jam jar, or similar.
    twice as much brake fluid as you think you'll need.

    Oh, and always buy fresh fluid, stuff that's sat in a half used bottle
    for ages seems to end up spongy and it's hardly worth it for saving a
    couple of quid.
     
    ginge, Dec 20, 2005
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  12. BGN

    OH- Guest

    <snip>

    Probably they have not done anything wrong at all. The new
    brake pads needs to wear together with the disc a short
    while before they work and feel right.
    The new pads will ride on their highest points and these in turn
    will ride on the high points of the disc. This makes the whole
    system more elastic than it should be, feeling spongy.
     
    OH-, Dec 20, 2005
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  13. OH- explained :
    What he said plus - the brakes will not be anywhere near as effective
    until they have properly bedded in.
     
    Harry Bloomfield, Dec 20, 2005
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  14. BGN

    BGN Guest

    Is this why I can bring the brake lever back to the handlebar?

    I've got through plenty of brake pads on this bike and I know when
    they've been farked.
     
    BGN, Dec 21, 2005
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  15. BGN

    Muck Guest

    Heh.. you lucky bloke you!
    Not bad at all I'd say.
    The front brake will feel spongy with new new pads, before they've worn
    in. If they don't get better with use, then play about with gaffer tape
    and the like.
     
    Muck, Dec 21, 2005
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