98 RON

Starting to really piss me off. 10 petrol stations in Wollongong area and
not one had 98 ron petrol. Want to run up to north of Sydney tomorrow (
depending on weather ) but dont want to get up to Heathcote and find no 98
ron.

Whats the availability of Premium Unleaded like in Sydney ?

Also how would a bike thats suppose to use only 98 run on 91 ? Would it
damage the bike in any way ?

 

Prefer BP myself . Last Thursday the BP down here was out and its out agaon
today as is the Shell and Caltex stations

Manual states I can use 95 if necessary but doesn't recommend it. I found
an older station that had Caltex 95 so now have a bit over half a tank

As I have the week off work I must admit its really annoying.

btw: is there an additive you can buy that you can put in with 91 to give
safer results?

 

only have knock sensors for this group and they are going off all the time

 

In aus.motorcycles on Sun, 16 Mar 2008 23:06:05 +1000

I just looked for some for my bike. 3 out of 3 BPs were out. The
local Mobil seemed to have the Synergy 8000 98. I far prefer BP, but
looks like there isn't any.

Probably. Might get away with 95, but if all you can get is 91 then
you need to ride the bike carefully. Right in the middle of the rev
range: no lugging, no high revs, no strain at all. Careful smooth
takeoffs. With no earplugs, listening all the time for pinging.

Zebee

 

The reason your manual doesn't recommend 95 RON might have a lot more to
do with emissions than engine knock; the small increase in RON to 98
should be almost insignificant. There is a refinery problem in Sydney,
so you might have trouble getting PULP or 98 RON anywhere.

This, from http://www.petrolprices.com/about-fuel.html may give you some
comfort:
" Also, a few vehicles, such as the new BMW K1200R motorbike, can sense
knock and adjust their engine tuning to take advantage of higher grade
fuels. " Or, possibly, lower grade fuels.

 

Certain, Shell doesn't seem to have had 98 for months now.

Synergy 8000 is the only 98 I have seen for a while.

I think that there was some kind of wee bottles of octane booster
available, but the cynic in me guesses it was only expensive metho.

E10 might be better than plain unleaded.

regards,
CrazyCam

 

What do you mean by safer results? Safer than adding an additive to 95
octane? Try adding some "107 Octane booster" or similar. You should be
able to find some at your local servo, or car accessory shop. If the
manual says you can use 95 octane fuel have you used it and what were
the results?

Nev..
'07 XB12X

 

No, no, no, it is the poor people in poor countries that have to compete
with my vehicle for food. Not me.

Nah, I don't get that either.

Theo

 

Water injection is, or was, a fairly common performance enhancing trick!

First up, petrol isn't petrol, it's a mixture of various things.

The refineries try to output fuel compliant with various standards.

The original thought was indeed, to water down, with ethanol, the fuel,
but although ethanol does have a lower energy content than a standard
mix of petrol, it has an effect of raising the Octane rating of a
mixture. It is also up the higher end of volatility.

So when the refinery adds ethanol, they may well not have to add some
other hydrocarbon, to achieve a satisfactory mixture.

regards,
CrazyCam

 

I run 95 in both the jags with a leading octain additive , not a cheap
option but with those high hp motors it does stop pinging , I suggest
you find something like moreys or scotts additive and use it , let us
know if successful .

 

atec77 wrote:

<cough> Pardon?

regards,
CrazyCam

 

I'm not competing with my car/motorcycle for food.

At the end of the day food/fuel is pretty much a zero sum equation, but
it's the people at the bottom of that food chain that will get squeezed
out.

That's not me, and honestly I don't think it'd be many (if any) people
on ausmoto. [1]


G-S

[1] You might argue that it's morally bankrupt to put my fuel above
someone else's food supply. [2]

[2] I probably wouldn't even argue with that. [3]

[3] But you didn't say that ;-P

 

Damn I was too slow again!


G-S

 

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Try green AVGAS that'll give the bastard a bit of a kick.

 

Safer results ? Basically means something that wont damage the bike


Just found the manual and it says 95.... usable with power and consumption
related issues


But as 95 is pretty much in the same boat as 98 its the results with 91 that
I am interested in.

 

We must all suffer for the Goracle...

Personally, I'd just use diesel or good old fashioned petrol and let the
peasants have their corn back.

 

Is there a question or did you get wooshed ?

 

G-S wrote:
..

You're not using a fuel additive to boost your octane

 

It was the relationship between Jaguar and high HP engines, which, in
the context of aus.moto, seemed just a trifle incongruous.

regards,
CrazyCam

 

Making sense has stopped being significant long ago.

We are approaching March 29, Earth Hour.

Turning out the lights, for an hour makes sense?

How many hours would Sydney have to be in the dark to pay back the
carbon cost of APEC, or of the Pope's Hitler Youth reunion?

How many hours would Melbourne have to stay dark to repay the carbon
cost of last Sunday's Grand Prix?

Bugger it, I need more coffee, and then I'll go for a ride.

regards,
CrazyCam