83 honda magna v45

Discussion in 'Motorbike Technical Discussion' started by marcoux.n, Jun 22, 2006.

  1. marcoux.n

    marcoux.n Guest

    I was told that a common problem on the honda magna v45 bikes is that
    second gear gets stripped. Can anyone say weather riding the bike in
    such a condition, just going from first to third, could be seriously
    damaging to the bike?
     
    marcoux.n, Jun 22, 2006
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  2. Yes. It will be.
     
    chateau.murray, Jun 22, 2006
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  3. marcoux.n

    FB Guest

    Yes, it will be bad for your crankshaft and rod bearings because engine
    RPM will be too low to provide enough oil pressure. You engine really,
    really, really needs second gear to keep turning fast enough to carry
    the loads you are trying to apply to it.
    Somebody told you a tale that isn't really likely. A hundred years ago,
    cars had transmissions with straight cut teeth on the gears and the
    gears actually had to be slid in and out of mesh. it was possible to
    actually strip the teeth off of a gear if the shifting wasn't done
    correctly.

    But all the gears in your motorcycle transmission are fully engaged at
    all times.

    Shifting is done by sliding the gears sidways so some large blocks of
    metal on the *sides* of gears engage slots in gears next to them. These
    blocks of metal are called "dogs".

    When riders shift carelessly, the edges of the dogs get rounded off and
    the transmission "pops" out of gear into a "false neutral".

    Mechanics routinely grind the dogs with a dremel tool to fix the gears.
    It may even be possible to get at second gear through the oil pan on
    some models in order to "undercut" the dogs without splitting the
    cases.

    There are other possibilities that cause a transmission to pop out of
    gear. Maybe the shifter dogs are bent or worn and they don't slide the
    moving gear over to one side enough to engage the dogs into the
    adjacent slots.

    Or, sometimes a 50-cent circlip that is supposed to keep the slotted
    gear in a certain position on the shaft is worn out and the slotted
    gear actually slides away from the gear with dogs on it.

    Another possibility that allows a tranmission to "jump" out of gear is
    the detent mechanism that holds the shifter drum in a certain position.
    It is usually a spring and ball, or a spring and a short shaft with a
    rounded end that falls into a valley on a star-shaped cam on the
    shifter drum.

    Later designs use a spring loaded arm with a roller that falls into the
    valleys of a star-shaped cam called a "star wheel" on the end of the
    shifter drum.
     
    FB, Jun 22, 2006
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  4. I'm afraid that while the gearbox treatise is accurate, this piece is
    nonsense. It implies that running an engine slowly will blow it up.
     
    chateau.murray, Jun 23, 2006
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