70s bike tries to spit off rider

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by sweller, Jul 1, 2005.

  1. sweller

    sweller Guest

    I think it was a one off and due to some fairly hefty mileage, all year
    round abuse.

    Not any more.

    I've got an old pair of non-piggybacks I refurbished ages ago but haven't
    any oil in, now I can't remember how much and what weight they need.
     
    sweller, Jul 2, 2005
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    Timo Geusch Guest

    If you're thinking of 1970s Marzocchis you may as well hardtail the bike...
     
    Timo Geusch, Jul 2, 2005
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  3. sweller

    Ben Blaney Guest

    My company owns Koni. I think everyone should buy Koni. Lots of
    them.
     
    Ben Blaney, Jul 2, 2005
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  4. sweller

    Ben Blaney Guest

    Good man.
     
    Ben Blaney, Jul 2, 2005
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    tallbloke Guest

    Next time you ask for a dream interpretation I won't warn you of the
    impending crash like I did last time.
     
    tallbloke, Jul 2, 2005
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    Eiron Guest

    You mean the red ones?
    http://www.ducatimeccanica.com/marzocchi1.html
    They were brilliant, unless you had one of those nasty, flexible,
    Japanese bikes.
     
    Eiron, Jul 2, 2005
    #26

  7. ITYM "especially".
     
    The Older Gentleman, Jul 2, 2005
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  8. I had a set of factory shocks go like that - under the dinky little
    rubber cover for the adjuster, the corrosion was eating away at the
    alloy. Just snapped off one day.
     
    Grimly Curmudgeon, Jul 2, 2005
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  9. sweller

    sweller Guest

    Maxtons are the current front runners but short term finances may dictate
    IKON.

    I've scored a set of good, tested, OE shocks from Steve Wesson to use as
    a stop gap. How I can ride round them will determine the urgency with
    which they're replaced.

    I shall take this forced hiatus as an opportunity to fit the two-stage
    air assisted fork internals and a new clutch plain plate.
     
    sweller, Jul 2, 2005
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    Salad Dodger Guest

    ITYM "especially".[/QUOTE]

    I never got to find out if reserve reservoir Paiolis were crap or not,
    as my Z750 was nicked before I'd ridden it with them on it.
     
    Salad Dodger, Jul 2, 2005
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  11. sweller

    Salad Dodger Guest

    Not really, when the damage report came back from bike techniques, for
    the crash with a GPO van the week before the 83 TT, it pointed out
    that the frame was bent. (which is presumably why it handled a little
    oddly on Mad Sunday)

    Insurance coughed 950 for a bike I'd paid a grand for a year
    previously.
     
    Salad Dodger, Jul 2, 2005
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    tallbloke Guest

    Shows how much you know then.
    As the PB writer put it a few years ago:

    "These bikes handle pretty well even by modern standards"

    They are a bit heavier than a modern sports bike, but that make no
    difference to the 'sensitivity' of the handling, just the damping and
    spring rates.

    The rigidity of the frame, the quality of the swinging arm bearings, and
    the nicely poised steering angles combine with a solidity which provides a
    reassuring and useable ride in a variety of road conditions which would
    unsettle lighter track orientated bikes.

    I think you should have said:

    "not as twitchy as, say, a Jap sports bike would be."
     
    tallbloke, Jul 2, 2005
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  13. sweller

    tallbloke Guest

    tell me more.
     
    tallbloke, Jul 2, 2005
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  14. sweller

    sweller Guest

    I'd suggest you ride one in anger. They may not be as precise or razor
    sharp as a modern bike but worn or sub standard suspension components
    will show themselves very quickly and, IME, in a frightening manner.
     
    sweller, Jul 2, 2005
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    Lozzo Guest

    Ben Blaney says...
    Kahlua I'll stick with, but I'm only buying Koni if you decide to
    reciprocate and buy Nitro helmets from now on. Fair's fair.
     
    Lozzo, Jul 2, 2005
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  16. sweller

    sweller Guest

    Wessons is getting out of Guzzi spares (he's not broken one for 6 years)
    so is having a bit of a sale and I picked a new set of FAC (I think, but
    can't remember as the packet isn't to hand) air assisted fork cartridges,
    two piece dual rate springs and the other gubbins needed to fit to my
    current sliders and stanchions.

    Also got some other goodies...
     
    sweller, Jul 2, 2005
    #36
  17. Guzzi's OE forks had sealed cartridges - at least, my Spadas both had
    them, IIRC.

    They were utter crap.

    I always thought that Guzzis handled well because they had a stiff
    frame, very lazy geometry, and good weight distribution. Even with
    shagged suspnesion, mine seemed to corner OK.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Jul 2, 2005
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  18. sweller

    sweller Guest

    They're fine when they've got some damping but they would go off and had
    a penchant for one of them leaking and being no use. Apparently many
    would do this within minutes of leaving the showroom.

    Of course the other one would work giving a reduced and unbalanced
    effect. Add to that the oil damping the forks had anyway it felt like it
    had /something/ but what it had was crap. In reality they needed
    attention but would carry on in this state indefinitely.

    You could buy aftermarket Marzocchi forks which were nothing special to
    begin with and wore out all by themselves.

    I'm fitting the later machines' much improved air assisted system.

    With half decent suspension they can be made to corner better than OK.
     
    sweller, Jul 2, 2005
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    Salad Dodger Guest

    It was downhill all the way from there - I used the money to buy the
    worst Z650C2 in existence.
     
    Salad Dodger, Jul 2, 2005
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    tallbloke Guest

    Haven't heard of FAC but they maybe Fonatana in another guise. I'll have to
    give him a ring.
     
    tallbloke, Jul 2, 2005
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