64 in a 60 zone

So the experience of the NRMA examining legal issues surrounding fines
for speeding by small margins might not be useful for someone in Vic
looking at contesting a small margin speeding fine in Vic? I'd think
you would be pretty silly not to at least look at what they did. (If
indeed they did anything)

Just because you may have some idea about NSW court decisions not being
*binding* in Vic[1] doesn't mean that consideration of events there is a
waste of time.

I'll bet you don't let the students colour outside the lines...

Moike
[1] in fact there are circumstances where NSW decisions can be used as
argument in Vic courts.

 

Hamish Alker-Jones wrote:

Sometimes even when heading to an intrastate destination!

Moike

 

Hamish Alker-Jones wrote:

but only for a rather narrow definition of "we"

Moike

 

But don't tell the local coppers as the person in question may still have
outstanding fines in that state but now has a new and clean licence from the
new state...hehehehe

 

Oh no it isn't!

-----sharko

 

Yeah, those pesky non-victorian-applying *Australian* Design Rules are
_completely_ irrelevant to Joes situation, eh?

big

 

Speaking of which the first year anniversary of harsh week is next weekend.
hope you cahns all get rooted!

 

I agree but this is usenet and harsh week. hence all logical arguments
should always end up like this.

ps the students are extremely competent and it's hard to colour over the
lines using cad I'm actually impressed with some of the drawings they
have come up with we have some excellent designers. Of course their
teacher riding a motorcycle brings out many motorcycle inspired designs
as well.

 

*peers over glasses* Which is supposed to certify _what_, _exactly_?

-----sharks

 

In aus.motorcycles on Fri, 18 Jun 2004 14:59:48 +1000

Yup, Once the vehicle's approved, then only in-service rules apply,
which differ from state to state.

That's why the new Buells and some new kwaks, and possibly other new
bikes (as in 2005 models pre-complied) are illegal to ride in NSW. They
pass the new zorst ADR, but the inservice regs in NSW name the previous
ADR and require every thing to comply with it.

The new one doesn't have a stationary test limit, the old one does.
Several bikes pre-complied with the driveby test in the new ADR don't
pass the stationary test in the old one.

(And wasn't it fun telling the distributors *that* at the bike show!)

So the ADRs don't apply to Joe's situation, if the in-service regs are
different.

which is a good thing really, you want to try and find the original
tyres your bike came with?

Zebee

 

In aus.motorcycles on Fri, 18 Jun 2004 14:29:20 +1000

Given that the law is different in both states, probably not, no.

The Vics have *legislated* a 3kmh leeway.

There has been a lot of fuss you know,.

If you want to find out what's been dfone, better ask RACV than NRMA.

Zebee

 

Yep, and Smee is so busy whining about out-of-towners posting in his
thread that he's failed to post his no-doubt readily-at-had up-to-date
Victorian in-service regs that specifically override the ADRs on this
issue.

Come on Smee, quit "gabbing" about how we're wrong, and post the
in-service regs that show the ADRs aren't applicable here.

Or quit your fucking whinging. Welcome to Harsh Week!

big

 

Are you sure?

Nev..
'03 ZX12R

 

Your spelling is having a Kennett of a day.

Nev..
'03 ZX12R

 

Pants down, and bent forward in the customary Duntroon position should be
easy enough.

 

That's because they only do it in their bonding sessions.

 

What's this 'we', Hammo? You were a newsouthwelshie during the kennett
regime, were you not?

 

Cam is of the opinion:

"Behind a door with a sign saying, 'beware the leopard'".

- Matt

 

Simple answer?
YEP