600's

Bollocks. Apart from the waking up in the next county, which the
Russian judge insists I give you ;-)

Double bollocks.

You are *so* wrong, mate. So very fucking wrong. Torque is the
function in question, here - and average speed - and Elly -
IMPersonalE.

Stick to flipwibbling, Dan - or look like SteveH ...

 

muck@_TEETH_rulex.net (Muck) struggled to ejaculate:

**** off, man. Many less than good riders <sticks hand up> are a
fucksight quicker on a (closeto) litrebike than they are on a 600
because it is *so much easier* to be quick on a bike that is:

a) designed for higher speed
b) less 'intrusive' at higher speed (possibly due to (a))
c) has more torque than a 600 - everywhere
d) is much easier to ride due to (d)

Bottom line with a litrebike is that the *go* is available at all
times and you will fucking go with it, too. Therefore you *will* be
quicker. Scam a decent ride on a Bandit 12 and come back to me on
that one.

 

STEP BACK FROM THE BANK, you fat ****.

 

Memories of the BOMB run are coming back.. wafting in fom long tem memoy
storage... a machine that can **** off at 160mph is quicker than a
machine that can **** off at 120mph.

Maybe I was thinking more along the lines of small bikes being easier to
ride the wheels off than big bikes. As usual I get all confused though..
<fx: goes for a lie down>

 

The Pipster has the right of it - if nothing else, on a bigger bike you
simply don't have to worry about what gear you're in.

 

Easier to go faster, innit. QEfuckingD

 

I'm not trying to stop you commenting, man. Just stop scaring the
fucking fish, OK. (1)


Bollocks. Too fucking late for this thread.

<fucks off to groundbait elsewhere>




1. I meant it as it was written however - the dweeb - SteveH thing.
Clueless crusading just because someone offers to perform a
tit-spooging or summat.
"Filling the shelves" they call it in Wales, apparently ...

 

snip

Humph. I'm not cos it ain't so.
Its not that a lot of the folk posting on this don't have a clue, several
have a lot of clue.
But they're still missing the point.

Yeah other things being mostly the same a good thou is fairly easily gonna
outdrag a good 600 in a straight line. And yeah all that extra torque means
mostly you don't need to be so choosy what gear your in (unless your in too
low a gear in which case it can be a little more excited than you meant).
But.
On typical B & twistier A roads there will be very very little overall
difference between the two. IME the 600 will go into round and out of the
corners very slightly quicker that the thous, then the thou opens up and
fucks off and at the next corner the 600 winds it in a bit.
The size ain't necessarily all that different (we can try blindfolding folk
and sitting 'em on an ZX9 E and ZX6 J and see if they can tell which
they're sat on?)
They aren't even all that similar for their characteristics either - if the
reports are to be believed (nobody's been dumb enough to trust me with
either so I can't say I know first hand sort of thing) the 2004 & 2005 are
hugely different riding experiences despite having the same or almost the
same motors.

Anyway, I'm well fond of my ZX6 so you can all piss off ;-) ..........
....... except if you know where I can pick up a good Mk2 R1 cheap ;-)

--

--
Nidge
ZX6R J2 Stunning in zit yellow. KX 125 MX 'I'm snot green -fly ME'. A few
bits of CB500S in Norwegian Parrot blue. BOTAFOT#63 BOMB#5

'Just because I don't care doesn't mean I don't understand'.
Homer (Simpson).

 

Arse.

HTF did that happen, then?

I blame the Ardbeg, me.


PS. I'll do you, ****. Remind me at Veggie's, eh?

 

I blame the Ardbeg. And Statto, in his absence. The ****.

 

I know. I've got to blag a ride on a blade now to test the theory.
When I owned the blade it always felt easily controllable, almost slow.

 

<snigger>

 

Fine - I'm wrong.

This doesn't change my opinion though that 600's have more than enough go
for 99% of the population.

Okay a 1000 may be easier to ride - but is it really that enjoyable rolling
on in 5th as opposed to riding around in a decent gear?

Maybe I'm a freak (highly likely) but I STILL change down on the DL 1000
because I like the razor sharp go of the power band - not the (still
impressive but nowhre near as good) go below that.

Of course a 1000 will pull harder - but does that mean it's better, or that
the rider is lazy?

Either way - the main point I'm trying to say is that 600's have enough go.

 

Now that I'm feeling more comfortable with the 9R, I'm starting to
find that I'm maintaining higher corner speeds more often and more
comfortably. I'm not saying that I've suddenly become devastatingly
quick across country, I feel my ride has become smoother, quicker and
more measured.

Yes, they probably do, but IMO it's not the 'go' that's the issue,
it's the way the power is delivered. As I've commented in a previous
thread long, long ago, the beauty of the 9R is that I can choose
between lazy, relaxing riding (ideal for the commute up the motorway
to uni) or I can knock it down a couple of gears for a more 'buzzy'
600 style ride.

Having now experienced the joy of bags torque and the pleasure of
choosing which way I want to ride (instead of having to maintain high
revs to achieve reasonable performance), I wouldn't go back to a 600
willingly. I've ridden 600s for 14 years (1) so feel I'm fairly well
qualified to comment on the relative merits of litre v. 600.

It makes me giggle every time I do it and that's after 7000 miles in 8
months.

You're not, in certain circumstance I do too. The thing that still
amazes me with the 9R is that even in top, I can roll on the gas and
things just disappear. It's great on the commute up and down the M1;
the ability to waft past cars without having to knock it down a gear
or two results in a relaxed, unflustered and ultimately smooth ride.

Not better, just different. I used to subscribe wholeheartedly to the
up and down the box 600 style of riding, great fun when you're out for
a Sunday afternoon hoon (2). However, for daily riding on a variety of
roads (I have 4 routes to and from uni so far depending on weather
conditions and the need to get home), I'll take the lazy torque and
choice of how I want to use it every time.

Quite probably but they're hard work if you want to get the best
performance out of them. Each to his or her own I say


(1) All CBRs granted, but through several stages of CBR development,
FL, FR and Sport.

(2) Most of my riding on 600s was limited to weekend hooning which was
great fun (3)

(3) I've toured extensively on the continent on CBR6s; it was bloomin'
hard work and I was totally wrung out at the end of each days
travelling (4).

(4) Average of 325 miles a day on the last 7 country tour.


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ZX9R-E1 - <Giggles>
Spike - FZ400 - It's dead Jim!
MRO#32 ibW#25 BoTAFOT#46 BoTAFOF #46 GP#1 UKRMRM#00 TWA#3
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elly at garagepixies dot co dot uk

 

Amen to that... it's exactly what I found myself thinking the other day,
when really pushing on, on the Fazer.

I suppose at least this is quite flexible in 600 terms compared to some I've
had, as in it's quite willing without the need to wring its neck, when
you're not in the mood to get ten tenths out of it.

 

Elly <> struggled to ejaculate:

Always a devastatingly quick cross-country weapon though, eh?

It is a game of two halves, at the end of the day, when all's said and
done.

Makes no odds, they're all on the same floorpan.

Was it stable even when partly loaded, or did you suffer from
cross wind?

 

Thank you

Indeed, hence my comments about my ride now being more measured,
relaxed and smooth. Overtakes are far less frantic now ... just roll
on the power when an opportunity appears, waft past and slot into the
next space. On the 600 it was usually a case of sitting at high revs
so that you would be ready just in case an opportunity appeared around
the next corner; very wearing.

--
Elly - a tired Pixie
ZX9R-E1 - <Giggles>
Spike - FZ400 - It's dead Jim!
MRO#32 ibW#25 BoTAFOT#46 BoTAFOF #46 GP#1 UKRMRM#00 TWA#3
http://www.garagepixies.co.uk
elly at garagepixies dot co dot uk

 

Suffered terribly with cross wind but that could have been down to the
sauerkraut in Bad Breisig.

--
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ZX9R-E1 - <Giggles>
Spike - FZ400 - It's dead Jim!
MRO#32 ibW#25 BoTAFOT#46 BoTAFOF #46 GP#1 UKRMRM#00 TWA#3
http://www.garagepixies.co.uk
elly at garagepixies dot co dot uk

 

maybe, however thou's don't need to be caned as hard which IMO is nicer.

Oh yes.

the pulling harder bit is the nice part.

it all depends on the pilot dunnit.

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