33bhp restriction question

So as I understand your license system new riders (under 2 years
experience) are restricted to 33bhp. So let's say I am a new rider and
get my new 600cc sport bike fitted with a restriction kit and then
take it home and remove said kit. How would I ever get caught? And if
I did, what would be the penalty?

I ask because for a couple of reasons, first when I was a child all us
14 year olds could ride bikes under 5hp legally on the street
(Arkansas USA). So many of us had 90cc Honda Supersports with
governors to limit the the factory 9hp to 5hp. But of course everyone
knew how to disable the simple mechanical device. I never knew anyone
get a ticket for that. Secondly would anyone in their right mind
restrict a 600cc sport bike?

Cheers.

 

Only if they take the test on a 125cc bike. Under 21s have no choice but
people over 21 can take the test on a >33bhp bike and get a full,
unrestricted licence. It's called Direct Access, DAS.

Bin the bike, make a claim on your insurance. Circumstances make the
underwriter' assessor suspicious. Have the claim rejected for
misrepresenting the bike. Worst case: insurer settles large third party
claim and then pursues the rider for the cash.

2nd scenario: get nicked for speeding. Savvy plod notices restricted
licence, suspects the bike is derestricted and seizes the bike for
inspection. Charged with speeding, riding an unrestricted bike and possibly
having no insurance. Lots of points, big fine maybe disqualification.

Both largely rely on the rider being a twat but the first one could be a
case of bad luck as nuns can appear from nowhere.

It happens. I believe some people have restricted the Honda Blackbird.

It's more common for bikes like the 600cc Bandit or SV650 to be restricted.

 

Secondly would anyone in their right mind

The leap from a typical UK 125 to an unrestricted 600 is a massive one, and
I know I'd not be terribly happy for my son (currently 4 months into his
125) loose on such a beast...

 

My Monster was unrestricted and a pussy cat. If anything it was *much*
sager than any 125 I've ever ridden.

and

An un-restricted *sports* bike OTOH.

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Rubbish. Most 600s are _much_ easier to ride, and thereby safer, than
125s.

In your situation I'd be making every effort to ensure he got a
proper-sized bike ASAP.

 

I would too, TBH. I recall vividly that I got *so* pissed off with my
125, it's what tipped me over to doing DAS in February

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What were its particular areas of wisdom?

 

Well, it was just generally enlightened. Even tempered, and always ready
with a deep aphorism when times got tough

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The leap from a typical UK 125 to an unrestricted 600 is a massive one,

I was comparing a restricted 600 with a de-restricted 600, and not a 125...

I certainly agree that he needs to move from the 125 as quickly as possible.

 

wessie escribió:

Mine's restricted when I'm sat on it.

 

Round here, our local plod have a trailer mounted dyno to check the power
output of the bike. They seem to use it for scooterbois who have probably
been pulled doing silly speeds on supposed 12bhp machines. But apparently
they have also been using it to check that a bike is actually restricted to
33bhp when required by the riders licence. This alone is probably the only
thing stopping my son from whipping out the restrictors on his SV650. They
actually can impound and crush the bikes if the rumours are true.

JB

 

Eh? You want to read what you actually wrote, perhaps.

 

Not all 125s are equal.

Compare a derestricted TZR with a CG, for example. The former is a piece
of piss to ride and will just about crack a ton. The latter is a wobbly,
wheezy deathtrap.

I'm sure I was better off spending my formative years on a TZR than,
say, a CBR.

 

<fanboi mode>

The late '70s 125cc Hiro engines made 31-32bhp. If my 250's anything to
go by though, I wouldn't say they're either easy to ride or safe.

</fm>

 

Oh sure. Not that I've ever ridden an unrestricted TZR or similar, but
your point is valid anyway.

Hah. Yoof of today.

 

My TZR made 24 on Bob Farnham's dyno. I think a full-fat Aprilia RS
squeezed out about 30.

Before I got the servo kit for the TZR I rode it for six months or so
with the valve pinned wide open. I suspect that was more like your Hiro
in character - **** all below 7k, then the whole lot in at once. With
the servo it was a lot more progressive.

 

Yep that's the Hiro alright, no idea what hp mine makes though. The
standard 250's around 43hp but mine's a works engine so probably a bit
more (in its prime at least).

 

JB escribió:

?

 

Word has it that plod (with VOSA?) can impound a bike if it's over the legal
power limit and apparently have it crushed(scrapped).

JB

 

Seems likely they'd impound it on the spot as it's evidence, & also
because it would effectively be uninsured. They certainly could crush
it if you don't collect it within n days, but whether they do as a
matter of course I know not.