30th Aniversary.

Discussion in 'Australian Motorcycles' started by Poppa Bear, May 8, 2005.

  1. Poppa Bear

    Poppa Bear Guest

    Tomorrow I will have had my bike a CB750 K2 for 30 years, I brought her as a
    birthday present for myself and paid $1600 including panniers and a years
    rego. I plan to celebrate this occasion with a replacement seat, new set of
    steering head bearings and a new chain and sprocket set. We had a 6 year
    hiatus in our relationship while I recovered from a back problem but I ran
    the engine and changed the oil 2 or 3 time each year and all seems to be OK.
    I no longer ride "Libby" every day but I do manage 100-200 klm per week. She
    is somewhat like grandpa's axe the only part that I haven't replaced is the
    frame, but I have welded it a few times. The original engine was rebuilt
    once and performed well and then I broke a chain while trying to show off
    and the chain ate the crankcase, the replacement engine from a wreckers was
    rebuilt prior to fitting, this was then refreshed after about 80k with a
    big-bore kit and new bearings, this is probably due to be repeated shortly.
    Have thought about buying a new bike now and then but the old girl suits me
    and I haven't wore her out yet so we just keep on going.



    Dain CB 750
     
    Poppa Bear, May 8, 2005
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    Birdman Guest

    good story dude.. Most people would have wet dreams of an R1 lasting
    that long!

    So, roughly how many klms you done all up on it in all weather?
     
    Birdman, May 8, 2005
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    John Littler Guest

    Why ? What makes you think an R1 can't last 30 years or more ? You saw
    the clip I posted of the guy who did an around the world run on an R1 ?

    I don't think it'll be the bikes fault that the majority don't make it
    to 30 years,it'll be owners wadding them I suspect. Parts should be
    easily available for a fair while though :)

    JL
    (owner of a 15 year bike always considered far more unlikely to last
    very long)
     
    John Littler, May 8, 2005
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    Poppa Bear Guest

    About 250K, I replaced a speedo early on and I have just clocked the
    replacement for the second time. Those K's were in all and any weather, I
    don't like the wet as the grip is reduced and I need all the breaks I can
    get, but if you have good wet gear then rain is not too bad, snow, hail and
    fog are much worse and I don't like riding in those conditions, fortunately
    I haven't had too for a long time.

    Dain CB 750
     
    Poppa Bear, May 8, 2005
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    Birdman Guest

    Good stuff, not as many kms as I though you would have!
     
    Birdman, May 8, 2005
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    Boxer Guest

    Mine was a 1972.

    Boxer

     
    Boxer, May 8, 2005
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    Dave Mojo67 Guest

    Dave Mojo67, May 8, 2005
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    Poppa Bear Guest

    No I got it in 1975 brand new for that price, they were selling the K2
    discount as the new model F2? was coming out. I decided to get the older
    model because I was very happy with the first one I had, a 1971 vintage. I
    traded a trumpy for the first one, what a revelation, as I left Parramatta
    heading to Liverpool I had to keep checking the tacho at the lights to see
    if the engine was still running. I still think the Turner twins are the best
    looking bikes around (its my age and upbringing) but I know that the ones I
    had wouldn't take what I handed out to the Hondas, although Libby has had a
    relatively easy life the first one got thrashed unmercifully.
    In money terms I needed about 15 weeks gross, and given my current income I
    could buy a $15K bike with that much work. As for a CBR1000RR I doubt I have
    the wits to keep ahead of one, and I know that I would give in to temptation
    and wring its neck and most likely end up a statistic, another old fart who
    thought he still had his 20yo reactions and eyes.

    Dain CB 750/4
     
    Poppa Bear, May 9, 2005
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    IK Guest

    The one and only high-speed tankslapper I've ever had in my 120-odd
    thousand km was on a Kawasaki W650 60's bevel-drive parallel
    twin-throwback thing... it was a loaner they gave me while my R1 was in
    for a service.
     
    IK, May 10, 2005
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  10. Looking at that in slightly different terms, how do you reckon your 30
    year ago purchase price compares to someone in the same piece of the
    workforce as you were 30 years ago? I'd hazard a guess that todays 20
    year olds aren't going to get much of a flash bike for 15 weeks gross
    wages...

    big
     
    Iain Chalmers, May 10, 2005
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    Glen Guest

    that all depends on what the 20 year old is doing
     
    Glen, May 10, 2005
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    Long time ago, a mate of mine bought a Vincent, new.

    It cost him 450 pounds, which was a year's wages for the bank teller he
    was then.

    What does a bank teller with 2-3 years in the job make now? What would
    a year's wages for one buy? Would it be enough to buy the Vincent
    equivalent, which I guess is either a 999 or maybe an MV?

    Hmm, wagenet.com.au implies somewhere in the 28k/yr range. Which will
    just about buy you an MV F4 I think, which is probably the Vincent
    Rapide equivalent.

    Zebee
     
    Zebee Johnstone, May 10, 2005
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  13. Well, obviously... But lets go on averages... The ABS tells me that in
    2000-2001 the average wage in NSW was $37k[1]. It also says the average
    annual increase over the last 5 years was 4.5%, so lets call the current
    _average_ wage 42k (3 years growth at 4.5%). That makes 15 weeks worth
    of _average_ wages come to about $12k.

    What can you get for $12K? You're about $3-4k short of the japanese 600
    suoersports range, and a few more grand short of their litrebikes...
    You'd get maybe a 600 "standard" like an FZ1 or a ZZR600 or an SV650 or
    a GSX750F, a mid-sized japanese cruiser (you're still a grand or so
    short of the cheapest Harley 883 Sportster).

    And thats based on _average_ wages, I'm guessing _most_ 20 year olds are
    earning well below that average...

    big


    [1]www.abs.gov.au/Ausstats/[email protected]/0/a80a8ac902b8cc82ca256e00007e620e
     
    Iain Chalmers, May 10, 2005
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    G-S Guest

    Iain Chalmers wrote:
    <SNIP>

    In 1985 I was taking home about $160 a week, a brand new run out model
    GSX1100ESD was $3999. A new XJ900 current model was $3999. Those were
    more like 25 weeks wages. I was looking at those but struggling for
    quite that much $ at the time.

    18 weeks would have bought a GSX750ESD (new but last years model) or a
    demo model Kawasaki GT750 (which I bought) or an assortment of current
    550's.

    15 weeks would have bought only superseded 550's or second hand bikes.

    18 weeks worth will buy you a modern 600 though, and 25 weeks worth will
    buy you an assortment of modern big bikes.

    Seems to me things are about the same now as they were just before the
    AU $ was floated (which was when the prices I mentioned are from).

    When the bikes were _really_ expensive was for several years after the
    float.

    In the space of 12 months almost every bike bike became 50% more
    expensive, things have drifted generally downwards since then...


    G-S
     
    G-S, May 10, 2005
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    G-S Guest

    Depends whose figures you choose to use.

    If you look at the median wages of full time employees in Australia then
    that increase _is_ close to 5 fold.

    G-S
     
    G-S, May 10, 2005
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    Smee R1100s Guest

    Does this make you the wrongest person in ausmoto?
     
    Smee R1100s, May 10, 2005
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    Boxer Guest

    With the exception of Street Cred and Pulling Power (the ladies Clem).

    Boxer (longs for the days of the 750/4 and being 30 years younger)
     
    Boxer, May 10, 2005
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  18. In aus.motorcycles on Tue, 10 May 2005 21:27:23 GMT
    Would a 750/4 have more Street Cred and Pulling Power now than a GS500?

    Street Cred yes, providing they are both in as new condition.

    Dunno about Pulling Power, not being someone who is Pulled by other
    people's motorcycles.


    Zebee
     
    Zebee Johnstone, May 10, 2005
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    Theo Bekkers Guest

    Except the most important measure, poser value.

    Theo
     
    Theo Bekkers, May 10, 2005
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    Theo Bekkers Guest

    Not even Guzzis?

    Theo
     
    Theo Bekkers, May 10, 2005
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