20w40 hard to find

Discussion in 'Motorbike Technical Discussion' started by zoot, May 31, 2009.

  1. zoot

    Schiffner Guest

    gee I have over 100K on a motor that's used many differnt brands
    INCLUDING Castrol. I runs fine and on twisty roads eats up CBX's of
    similar vintage and fewer miles on the clock just fine and dandy.
    Guess it's going to blow up any second now...NOT. You are compensating
    for your fucking up a perfectly good motor by blaming the oil. I've
    seen it TONS of time over the last couple of decades....blaming oil,
    tyres etc for a persons on stupidity and incompetance.
    <Red>
    dumbass
    </Red>
     
    Schiffner, Jun 3, 2009
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  2. You figure? To make a a statistical sampling, count them in this thread.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Jun 3, 2009
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  3. And has been pointed out, oil does not "protect" worn old engines. It
    helps prevent *unworn* engines from *becoming* worn.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Jun 3, 2009
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  4. zoot

    ¿ Guest

    But I don't *want* to make a cause celebre out of Ian's issues with
    Castrol, so why should *you*?

    I'm a cracker, eat me, if you can.

    Crackers have survived a thousand years of class warfare, and we're
    still around.
     
    ¿, Jun 3, 2009
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  5. zoot

    TOG@Toil Guest

    I'm not making a cause celebre out of it. This is a tech ng, as you
    never fail to mention when you disagree with someone, and he's posted
    something which everyone, absolutely everyone who's replied, disagrees
    with. Except you. But then, you're the bod who tells people that it's
    perfectly safe to ride on flat motorcycle tyres, so....
     
    TOG@Toil, Jun 3, 2009
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  6. zoot

    ¿ Guest

    Yes, you are making a big issue of something irrelevant, as usual.

    < This is a tech ng, as you never fail to mention when you disagree
    with someone, and he's posted
    So? Let him make his case, tell him that you disagree and move on. If
    you think he's stupid, and unworthy of paying any attention to, don't
    answer him any more.

    But your tactic of keeping a silly thread going for a hundred posts
    after it's obviously dead, is a crock of shit.

    < Except you.

    Who says that I agree him Ian? Who says that it even *matters* whether
    I agree with him? Who says that I need to take a position?

    < But then, you're the bod who tells people that it's
    Read back the record and show me where I ever said that "it's
    perfectly safe to ride on flat motorcycle tyres."

    Then go into the bathroom, close the door and masturbate. Wash your
    hands before going out in public afterwards.

    BTW, I'm a cracker. You can eat me.

    Crackers have survived the last 1000 years of class warfare.
     
    ¿, Jun 3, 2009
    #46
  7. zoot

    ian field Guest

    Well, actually that's only *half* the reason why he's being abused.
    The other factor is that TOG *enjoys* abusing people who steadfastly
    hold to a viewpoint or expression of said viewpoint that gives TOG
    somebody to mess with.

    Most people would probably take Ian's vague assertions that Castrol is
    "bad" as his own viewpoint, say, "whatever", shrug their shoulders and
    move on to something else that they found interesting.

    *************

    I'll admit to being vague - to make it clearer, I regard castrol as adequate
    but not worthy of the prices they charge.
     
    ian field, Jun 3, 2009
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  8. zoot

    ian field Guest

    I'm well aware of that, in my experience halfords cheap own brand seems to
    perform better in that regard, I'm not saying castrol is bad oil - just that
    in my opinion its not worthy of the high prices they charge for it.
     
    ian field, Jun 3, 2009
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  9. zoot

    TOG@Toil Guest

    He's not a troll. If he wants to argue the issue in a tech forum, let
    him. He might learn something[1].
    Excuse me. What thread do you think this posting of yours is appearing
    in? Oh, dear me, the same one.

    By telling a poster that ordinary Bridgestones are run-flat tyres,
    when they aren't, that is *precisely* what you are saying. Run-flat
    tyres are safe to use when they're flat. Ordinary tyres aren't. This
    is a very simple thing to understand.

    [1] Like you do. Such as cars that have oil jets firing at the
    pistons, and 1970s Jap bikes that have the cylinder barrels integral
    with the crankcases[2].
    [2] Oh, no, you haven't figured that one out yet.
     
    TOG@Toil, Jun 3, 2009
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  10. zoot

    ian field Guest

    Yes - it did quieten down the rattles after I drained the castrol. The
    engine kept going long enough to scrounge up the parts to build up another
    engine.
     
    ian field, Jun 3, 2009
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  11. zoot

    ¿ Guest

    There is *nothing* endearing about a huge turd, floating in the public
    punch bowl, so don't fancy yourself as "dear".
    Objection, you're trying to pin something I never said on me by re-
    interpreting another statement.

    There are probably ISO and JIS standards for *motorcycle* tire air and
    bead retention for the purpose of safely stopping after a puncture and
    if a manufacturer chooses to claim that his product meets such "run-
    flat" standards, it's his privilege, but it's not his fault if some
    Limey clown
    misinterprets the use of such phraseology and kills himself by trying
    to ride
    50 miles on a flat.
     
    ¿, Jun 3, 2009
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  12. zoot

    ¿ Guest

    You haven't mentioned exactly which Castrol product that you're
    dissatisfied with so we can give your experience due consideration
    next time
    it goes on sale at Wal*Mart.

    Rambling on...

    I don't recall ever having a lubrication failure when there was enough
    oil of any kind in my crankcase.

    But I do recall hearing a rattle in a car engine that I was breaking
    in after a total overhaul.

    I mentioned the rattle (which only occurred on deceleration) to some
    guy at work and he asked what brand of oil I was using.

    I said, "Pennzoil", to which he replied, "I wouldn't use Pennzoil in a
    baby buggy."

    He advised me that he used Valvoline because it had "higher film
    strength".

    So I switched to Valvoline and still had the deceleration rattle as I
    would
    pull the gear shift lever into neutral and let out the clutch every
    time I rolled to a stop.

    It seemed that the problem wasn't inside the engine at all, it was the
    flywheel rattling because the mounting bolts had loosened up (in spite
    of being torqued to spec.)

    ( Now Mr. Hankey is going to add this confession to his list of my
    misdeeds, and he will throw it up to me as if I was his husband and
    hadn't remembered to send him flowers on our anniversary.)
     
    ¿, Jun 3, 2009
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  13. zoot

    ian field Guest

    Well, actually that's only *half* the reason why he's being abused.
    The other factor is that TOG *enjoys* abusing people who steadfastly
    hold to a viewpoint or expression of said viewpoint that gives TOG
    somebody to mess with.

    ************

    It makes him look important, but he needs someone to have an opinion first
    so he can take an opposing stance.
     
    ian field, Jun 3, 2009
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  14. zoot

    TOG@Toil Guest

    It means the same thing.
    So name them, then.

    and
    He didn't claim it. Nothing like. *You* interpreted it that way.

    , it's his privilege, but it's not his fault if some
    No, that's what the OP might have done had he followed your advice.

    You're not very good at this, are you :))
     
    TOG@Toil, Jun 3, 2009
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  15. zoot

    TOG@Toil Guest

    For the nth time, why don't you name the name and viscosity of the oil
    you used? To say that "Castrol oil is crap" is the same as saying
    "Silkolene oil is crap". They *do* make quite a lot of different oils,
    you know.

    And you're still being stupid.
     
    TOG@Toil, Jun 3, 2009
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  16. zoot

    TOG@Toil Guest

    The word you are seeking is "knowledgeable". I am.
     
    TOG@Toil, Jun 3, 2009
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  17. zoot

    ian field Guest

    The whole thread began with a request where to get 20/40 (and the subject
    line continues as a constant reminder) followed by the suggestion that 15/40
    was good as, and my suggestion that 15/40 for diesels has higher shear
    strength and would easily compensate for the small difference.

    Next time you're in to see the shrink, ask if anything can be done about
    having the attention span of a goldfish.

    BTW: it says 10/40 on the filler cap but IIRC the user manual recommends a
    range of viscosities for various climates. Its highly unlikely that using
    15/40 should cause any problem.
     
    ian field, Jun 3, 2009
    #57
  18. zoot

    ian field Guest

    The word you are seeking is "knowledgeable". I am.

    Actually the word "opinion" makes a timely return to the fore.
     
    ian field, Jun 3, 2009
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  19. zoot

    ¿ Guest

    It seems that there is just *no way* to flush Mr. Hankey, he just
    won't go down the crapper like a good turd.

    http://www.popcultcha.com.au/images/DlxTalkingMr.Hankey.jpg
     
    ¿, Jun 3, 2009
    #59
  20. zoot

    Who Me? Guest

    And he replied to this post and STILL didn't specify.
    AND now he is back-pedaling and claiming he never said it is bad oil.

    Anyone THAT dense isn't deserving of any more attention.
     
    Who Me?, Jun 3, 2009
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