200LY from planet Topic - TV tuner cards

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by AndrewR, Dec 21, 2003.

  1. AndrewR

    AndrewR Guest

    Yesterday I bought myself a TV tuner card for my PC as step 1 of my plan to
    be able to transfer stuff from VHS to DVD.

    However I can't get the fucking thing to work. I suspect a combination of
    XP being a PITA, no-name hardware and shite software, but before I go to the
    hassle of returning the card I thought I'd throw myself at the feet of ukrm
    and beg for wisdom.

    The facts, ma'am, are:

    o I'm running Windows XP Home
    o The packaging for the card says it is made by Mentor (no, I'd never heard
    of them either) and claims that the software included supports XP.
    o The actual chip on the card is a Conexant Fusion 878a
    o When installing the software that came with the card Windows has a hissy
    fit because it's not certified for XP.
    o When running the software it gives shite ... and I mean really shite ...
    error messages. An example is (and these aren't my typos) "Cannot preview,
    maybe some program use same interface or something wrong ..."
    o I've downloaded the drivers that go with the chip from driverguide.com and
    they install cleanly and Windows reports the device as present and working
    correctly.

    So, the upshot is that I _think_ the card is working OK, but I can't get any
    software to run with it to actually let me see it's working. Even a window
    with static in or an FM radio signal would do.

    Unfortunately I know nothing about TV tuner cards, never having owned one
    before, but I think my options now are;

    1. Try to find some generic software that lets me use the TV card, rather
    than the shite that came with it.
    2. **** about some more with drivers and see if it will work.
    3. Unplug the card from my machine and try it in my wife's Windows 98
    machine.
    4. Send it back to whence it came and start again.
    5. 1 followed by 2, 3 and then 4.

    Anybody have any sage words of advice to me on any of these matters?

    --
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    The speccy Geordie twat.
     
    AndrewR, Dec 21, 2003
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    Cane Guest

    Sounds like a real piece of shit. Send it back and buy a Hauppuage card.
     
    Cane, Dec 21, 2003
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    wessie Guest

    can you trace the OEM from the FCC ID.?
    http://www.fcc.gov/oet/fccid/

    If you are lucky they will have an English as well as a Taiwanese website.
     
    wessie, Dec 21, 2003
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  4. AndrewR

    Intet Navn Guest

    Agree on the Hauppauge bit - but I think you should try to stay away series
    of "USB Family" products and go for one of their much better PCI tuner-cards
    instead. I've had both and wish I'd never bought the USB-thingy...

    /claus
     
    Intet Navn, Dec 21, 2003
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  5. AndrewR

    Speedgazebo Guest

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "AndrewR" <>
    Newsgroups: uk.rec.motorcycles
    Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2003 12:31 PM
    Subject: 200LY from planet Topic - TV tuner cards

    Option 4, if it dosen't work out of the box, send it back. Always works for
    me !

    HTH
     
    Speedgazebo, Dec 21, 2003
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    Pip Guest

    Option 5 - learn to format usenet replies correctly, while snipping
    and comforming to normal attribution line construction.

    On the TV card - option 4 sounds good to me; then get a PCI Hauppage
    item as they always work.
     
    Pip, Dec 21, 2003
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  7. AndrewR

    K Olley Guest

    Why are you looking at TV cards?

    Most of them are cheap tuners that are just about capable of
    displaying a picture on your screen, most have recording capabilities
    but not up to the standards you are probably looking for:-(

    The Hauppuage card in my machine is only capable of capturing about 15
    frames per second, way below what you need for decent quality DVD's.
    That one sounds good:)
    Yep, if you want to do the job properly you will need something thats
    capable of doing the job.

    How about something thats capable of handling the output from a video
    or any other analogue source.

    <copied from an earlier post>

    Pinnacle's Studio DC10plus version 8 seems capable, good picture
    capture size and handles PAL frame rate without problem, C/W software.

    http://www.pinnaclesys.com/ProductPage_n.asp?Product_ID=2&Langue_ID=2

    The important specs on features and specifications link.

    It needs to be mounted in a capable machine with plenty of free hard
    disk space, only needs 12gig an hour for high quality capture:)

    Dare I say it, it is available from PC World for about £100, probably
    a lot cheaper elsewhere.

    This ain't a product recomendation, I have never used their kit:)
     
    K Olley, Dec 21, 2003
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    deadmail Guest

    Not the one I got; from new it seemed to suffer when it got hot and
    start flickering. This happened in two different machines and under
    both Windows and Linux. Couldn't be arsed to do anything about it mind
    you...
     
    deadmail, Dec 21, 2003
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    etb Guest

    My Haupage card is capable of capturing 25 frames per second at
    720x568...

    "streamer -o /scratch/video -O /scratch/sound -b 32 -s 720x568 -f 422
    -F mono8 -c /dev/video0 -r 25 -n pal -i television -j 100 -t 67500" for
    75 mins worth.

    Great for recording TV programes. I should do stereo really but I'm too
    lazy...

    --
    SimonB - South Wales. BOF#32
    email simonb@zapikdotcodotuk
    Triumph Sprint ST,
    ZXR750L2 Wazimbaki.
    Kawasaki Z1R For Sale
     
    etb, Dec 21, 2003
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    Dazed Guest

    Try Dscaler http://dscaler.org/ it's the daddy - IIRC it's worked before
    I've installed all the Hauppauge drivers. I've captured TV uncompressed
    on Virtualdub and then converted it to DivX 5.05 after, works well.
    IuLab's iuVCR is good too, but it refuses to work for me of late.
     
    Dazed, Dec 21, 2003
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    K Olley Guest

    Is that running in Linux?

    I was just looking at the standard software that came with it:)
    TBH I only occasionally use mine, and then only to watch rather than
    record, did try but with very limited success.
     
    K Olley, Dec 21, 2003
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  12. AndrewR

    etb Guest

    Yes indeed. I use it for downloading stuff from my Bro's old Video
    Camera.
    Yes well. Winwhatever does appear to leave very little cpu power for
    anything really important...

    I just run a cron/at job wth the above command line...


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    SimonB - South Wales. BOF#32
    email simonb@zapikdotcodotuk
    Triumph Sprint ST,
    ZXR750L2 Wazimbaki.
    Kawasaki Z1R For Sale
     
    etb, Dec 21, 2003
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  13. AndrewR

    etb Guest

    xawtv -hwscan gives me :-

    /dev/video0: OK [ -device /dev/video0 ]
    type : v4l
    name : BT878(Hauppauge (bt878))
    flags: overlay capture tuner

    So your card looks as if it uses the same chip set as the
    Hauppauge. Download the drivers...

    --
    SimonB - South Wales. BOF#32
    email simonb@zapikdotcodotuk
    Triumph Sprint ST,
    ZXR750L2 Wazimbaki.
    Kawasaki Z1R For Sale
     
    etb, Dec 21, 2003
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  14. AndrewR

    K Olley Guest

    Yes, one of these days, sometime in the distant future, I may attempt
    to install and learn a proper OS, til then I will continue to use
    windoze:)
     
    K Olley, Dec 21, 2003
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    Timo Geusch Guest

    Cane was seen penning the following ode to ... whatever:
    Wot he said. Works even for me.
     
    Timo Geusch, Dec 23, 2003
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