[QUOTE] [QUOTE] Bike, 9 years in July, car 11 years in July. I can insure a GSXR-1000 FC for less than a 10 year old 1.3 Civic tpft.[/QUOTE] That is barking, I've no real idea what a GSXR-1000 would cost, a quick web quote suggest ~£500[1] but last year I wangled the shed[2] down to £110.[/QUOTE] I was exaggerating a tad... The GSXR costs £575 quid but I have 4 years NCB and insured it after some points were removed from my licence. Because I'd been riding bikes rather than driving cars, my Civic is my first ever car (I drove other peoples for the last 10 years). The Civic also is fecking group 10 insurance despite being a slow shed. So it costs 600 quid tpft with 1 year NCB and was insured before 4 points got removed from my licence. This year it should be substantially cheaper with 2 years NCB but I'll be insuring Anya on it and she'll have only just passed her test...