1st Big Bike

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by philmccormack, Nov 7, 2005.

  1. Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Champ
    And when you're in a van full of mechanics?

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    Wicked Uncle Nigel - There are few things in life more sinister than a
    public toilet with the lid closed.

    WS* GHPOTHUF#24 APOSTLE#14 DLC#1 COFF#20 BOTAFOT#150 HYPO#0(KoTL) IbW#41
    SBS#39 Enfield 500 Curry House Racer "The Basmati Rice Burner",
    Honda GL1000K2 (On its hols) Kawasaki ZN1300 Voyager "Oh, Oh, It's so big"
    Suzuki TS250 "The Africa Single" Yamaha GTS1000
     
    Wicked Uncle Nigel, Nov 8, 2005
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  2. At least it's not rock.
     
    Work in progress, Nov 8, 2005
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    wessie Guest

    Wicked Uncle Nigel emerged from their own little world to say
    Hope there's no swarf in the grease
     
    wessie, Nov 8, 2005
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    Andy Bonwick Guest

    I still don't give a flying **** about potential accidents. I'm
    probably not quite as bad as I was when I was a teenager but the day
    an RTA makes me feel worried about my own life I'll be in need of some
    serious help.
     
    Andy Bonwick, Nov 8, 2005
    #44
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    deadmail Guest

    To be fair, that's not *that* long ago. I certainly don't recall any
    training being available in 1980.
     
    deadmail, Nov 9, 2005
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    Molly Guest

    Find a friendly dealer who will do the certification but don't bother
    fitting it. It will still cost about £100.
     
    Molly, Nov 9, 2005
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    MikeH Guest

    Heh. Most of the hardware blokes here are ex-navy, so they explained
    that to me.
     
    MikeH, Nov 9, 2005
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  8. Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Rope
    OK, there wasn't any good quality training available. How's that?

    --
    Wicked Uncle Nigel - There are few things in life more sinister than a
    public toilet with the lid closed.

    WS* GHPOTHUF#24 APOSTLE#14 DLC#1 COFF#20 BOTAFOT#150 HYPO#0(KoTL) IbW#41
    SBS#39 Enfield 500 Curry House Racer "The Basmati Rice Burner",
    Honda GL1000K2 (On its hols) Kawasaki ZN1300 Voyager "Oh, Oh, It's so big"
    Suzuki TS250 "The Africa Single" Yamaha GTS1000
     
    Wicked Uncle Nigel, Nov 9, 2005
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    Ace Guest

    I thin that applies to most of us, TBH. Becoming a 'responsible adult'
    is about the scariest thing there is.

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    Ace, Nov 9, 2005
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    'Hog Guest

    So riding without a licence and insurance? not clever.
    Have a machine shop take out the restrictor disks to a much larger ID
    and leave them in. *So* much less obvious IMHO.

    'Hog
     
    'Hog, Nov 9, 2005
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    TimP Guest

    Really? Admittedly I rode a CG rather than an SR but I can only recall
    thinking what an unmitigated heap of shite it was, seemingly unable to
    stop without 15 minutes' warning.

    Amazing how fast 30 mph felt though.

    </heresy>
     
    TimP, Nov 9, 2005
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  12. So riding without a licence and insurance?
    ??????

    He passed restricted A license a couple of weeks ago.
    The bike was insured the day he picked it up - but it wasn't
    restricted. We're awaiting delivery of said restrictor kit and a date
    for fitting. but it was ordered before we picked up the biek.
    He was riding from the garage to home.
    I understand if he'd clanged it on the way home the insurance would be
    dodgy as it wasn't restricted.

    But I wouldn't let him ride without proper license/insurance etc...
    (and clothing).
     
    philmccormack, Nov 9, 2005
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    Ace Guest

    'Dodgy' is about the size of it. Despite the claim frequently made on
    here, he would not be open to a charge of riding without insurance,
    simply that of riding a machine for which he didn't hold an
    entitlement.
    Quite so. Riding without clothing is not generally a good idea, unless
    he's a fit nubile girl.

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    `\\ | //' BOTAFOT#3, SbS#2, UKRMMA#13, DFV#8, SKA#2
    `\|/`
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    Ace, Nov 9, 2005
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    'Hog Guest

    Do you think an insco would pay out on any claim if it was proved? not
    a chance.

    'Hog
     
    'Hog, Nov 9, 2005
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    Ace Guest

    Not the same thing.
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    Ace, Nov 9, 2005
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    Ferger Guest

    Well, OK, a level of road-sense commensurate with (and no greater than)
    passing a CBT and riding a scooter a few hundred miles ie not very much
    at all
    Heh.
     
    Ferger, Nov 9, 2005
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    Ferger Guest

    No, I didn't mean I see accidents on a daily basis...but I do see
    near-misses, near-misses in the asking and the occasional accident to
    boot. At least a couple of times a week I see scooters filtering past
    stationary traffic flat out, with no regard for the fact that drivers
    in stationery traffic let other drivers out to turn across them (or,
    worse, pull u-turns without any indication), so a bit of care and
    attention as you pass likely exits tends to keep you upright etc. As
    it happens, the two accidents I saw this week were both this form of
    classic SMIDSY...
     
    Ferger, Nov 9, 2005
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  18. Despite what the dealerships and www.fiinternational.co.uk will tell
    you the law does not require you to have a certificate.

    Even the argument that a certificate *might* save you a trip to an MOT
    station to prove the output is pretty damn weak for obvious reasons.
     
    danny_deever2000, Nov 9, 2005
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  19. I self fitted a restrictor kit to a friend's bike. (For £2 from eBay)

    The law doesn't require an insurance certificate.

    Insurance wasn't a problem - we checked with the insurance company that
    gave the best quote and they were happy to confirm that they didn't
    need a certificate in writing.

    This is *not* classed by insurance firms as a Mod incidently but you
    don't save money either.

    Almost all the information out there about restrictor kits is
    propaganda from F1 International propogated by morons. (Try phoning F1
    International and a local dealer - both will tell you you need a cert
    by *law*.)
     
    danny_deever2000, Nov 9, 2005
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  20. Could this whole issue be covered in the FAQ? Newbie bikers are being
    shafted by a fortune - like £250 for 2 washers.

    The key answers to restrictor kit FAQs are:

    1) You don't need a cert.
    2) You *do* need to double check with your insurance that *they* don't
    need a cert.
    3) If a rozzer thinks you are driving not in accordance with your
    license due to the absence of a restrictor kit you need to go to an MOT
    station to show it's there.
    4) It's not clear if 33bhp is at the crank or rear wheel.
     
    danny_deever2000, Nov 9, 2005
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