1983 honda CB1000C

'S'ok. He ain't gonna provide one.

 

Honda dealers don't produce things.

I said: some parts aren't in production.

So, a quick review.

Jack says:

"Honda has a policy of not supporting any bike older than 10 years"

TOG says: "Utter and complete nonsense" and others say similar.

Jack says a head gasket for a CB1000 is unavailable from Honda.

TOG says that a CB1000 is a quarter-century old, not 10 years, but
nevertheless points him at a supplier and quotes a price.

Jack says: "That's not a Honda dealer, is it?"

TOG says: "It's a genuine Honda part, and it's available. So a Honda
dealer can obtain it." He acknowledges that some parts for older bikes
are indeed not obtainable and points out why.

Jack starts a frantic back-pedal and claims: "I never said you can't get
the old parts. I said Honda doesn't make them any more."

TOG (and Ken) remind him that this is not at all what he said. TOG says
that parts for older bikes are being made.

Jack demands proof!

TOG points to the exhaust of his 30 year-old Honda 400 Four and says
(correctly) that it's still being made. Also cites parts for his 1974
125.

Jack chooses to ignore the 400 exhaust issue and says of the 125: "We
don't have those pushbikes over here", thus now making the imaginary
supply problem a localised US issue.

TOG reminds Jack that he's ,oving the goalposts with every posting.

Jack asks TOG to prove that a gasket for a CB1000 is still currently in
production.

And TOG, at this stage in a laughable series of nonsense postings by
Jack says:

You lose.

 

But of course. Well, having made him look a complete fool in front of a
grandstand audience, I've finished playing with him.

 

no
^^

Here, have a free word.

And it was still sound advice as a first port of call. And I
subsequently located source, item and price.

Thank you for playing, all the same. It's been fun.

 

They do? Where do you learn that little nugget of info?

Not that I disbelieve you: I'm just impressed.

 

You do have a way with words. When asked for a source you can give none.
And now you make remarks about body parts. Too bad. I could have
probably been of some help to you but you now go in the kill file.
Bruce

 

He's just behaving like a little kid.

I can't actually figure out why he lied in this thread. I mean, anyone
who says: "I said (this)...." when that patently isn't true must (a)
have a deep-seated desire to tell lies and sod the consequences and
(b) believe that his previous postings sort of disappear after people
read them, so that the obvious contradiction can't be pointed out.

Very strange. He's not alone in that, of course.

 

The Older Gentleman says:

From experience, the internet providers might have the part number
on the site, will let you order it, and then a couple hours/days
later will tell you via email or phonecall "sorry, it's no longer
available". I've recently had this happen for both Honda
('74 CR125M) and Suzuki (GS750EC) parts, from two
different suppliers. Service Honda in the first case, Bike
Bandit in the second.


Go fast. Take chances.
Mike S.

 

Ye-es, but the point of this sub-thread was that Jack started by
saying there was no support for 10+ year-old Hondas.

However, he choose to illustrate his point by referring to a bike that
was actually 25 years old, and then (to general amusement) tied
himself in knots.

The CR125 you mention is 34 years old, and the 750 about 30 years old,
and we have already agreed that some parts for older bikes are hard or
impossible to find. I'd expect this for bikes 30+ years old.

And yes, some suppliers do piss you around. However, as has been
patiently explained, this is a defect of the suppliers concerned and
has nothing to do with the actual manufacturers' spare parts support
policy.

 

I was surprised to see Service Honda mentioned in this context.
My experience with them has been very positive, and I have never had
them come back saying they couldn't get any parts for my '81 CM400T,
or my '81 CB900C, or my '86 GL1200A.

Since it has been mentioned that S.H. may not be able to get all the
parts listed in their online catalog, if I want to order any parts for
older bikes from them, I will phone first and have them check with the
warehouse for availability.

I have also ordered numerous parts for the three aforementioned bikes
from a local Honda dealer, including a complete top end gasket set for
the CM400T and I never had them tell me they couldn't get a part I
wanted.

 

Actually, the only person entertained by your argumentiveness is YOU.

Interminable Usenet debates have been your only source of
entertainment since you
became impotent.

 

Heh. I bet Jack's *really proud* to have you fighting his corner.

 

rec.motorcycles isn't about experienced riders and mechanics debating
with each other,
it's about helping other motorcyclists with their mechanical and
electrical problems.

If you want to play flame war with other trolls, stay in UKRM.

 

Er, this isn't rec motorcycles, though, is it?

Ah. Now, a while back, you said it was for newbies to be educated about
bikes.

I told you to look at the charter then. I'll tell you the same here.

I play with you here, don't I?

You lose.

 

Anybody who reads your crap or debates with you has wasted that part
if his life.

If you have information that might *reasonably* help the OP, then
share it.

Otherwise, control your urge to play NIGYYSOB with everybody.

 

Well, let's see. I have already given him the details of a supplier who
listed the part he wanted, and quoted the price.

Like I said:

You lose! Loser.

 

Mark Olson is suprised:

My experience with them has been very positive too. They called first
thing when they got to the office the morning after I ordered a CR
part
that was no longer available. Not their fault that the software let's
you
order phantom parts. At least they let me know right away.

Regards,
Mike S.

 

Mike,

A couple of months ago I was searching for some out of production
Gaerne boots. I was able to order them from two different places that
in fact did not have them in stock. I was also notified promptly,
but...

It is someone's responsibility to keep the online store's inventory
current, it's not necessarily a function of the software used. When I
told one of the places they still showed the boots in stock, they
changed the page within a day.

DJ

 

IdaSpode notes:

Yeabut that's different as no motorcycle shop stocks hard parts
for 20-30 year old bikes, except by accident.

The following is slightly conjecture as I've not had enough
access to the insides of one of these systems but:

My local dealer, an old friend, has let me play with his system
minimally a couple times. You can also access it via internet.

http://www.nrys.com/fiche_select.asp

It supposedly has a direct connection to Yamaha and Suzuki
warehouse stock, as Service Honda most probably does.
The trouble is that connection is less than stellar,
it will let you order stuff that isn't available. If you're standing
at the
counter, it'll come back and tell you right then. If you're doing it
through whatever firewall allows access via internet, it never tells
you anything is not available unless the part number database
says 'no longer available'. I've had the same experience with
my buddy's system as I have with Service Honda's. Order it
online from him for pickup in a couple days and get a call or
email that the parts are no longer available.

So I think in this case, it is a software vendor failing.
I think.


Go fast. Take chances.
Mike S.

 

In this case I agree, it's not a simple "shopping cart" that you're
dealing with, as in my examples.

DJ