1982 Honda CB750 shuts off

Discussion in 'Motorbike Technical Discussion' started by kotchou, May 27, 2006.

  1. kotchou

    kotchou Guest

    Got one at home that'll start, idle for a few seconds, and simply shut
    off afterwards. Then when I try starting it again, it may or may not
    start. I can try and try until the battery dies... the next day, I'll
    try again, and after the first attempt, the engine runs, but shuts off
    a few seconds later. Same routine... any ideas on what to check? Could
    it be a starter relay problem?
     
    kotchou, May 27, 2006
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    SAMMM Guest

    go thru the fuel supply system, the strainer, etc.
    remember, there's a little strainer in the gas tank inlet to the fuel
    valve.
    sounds like it may be seeping a carbset full of fuel and then running out
    of fuel at idle.

    of course, you have checked for spark after the engine has stopped,
    haven't you?
    if i recall, the ignition consists of two separate coil and point sets so it
    should still run somewhat on one coilset, although not well.
    fuel is my guess.
    good luck, sammmmm
     
    SAMMM, May 27, 2006
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    Paul Cassel Guest

    fuel starvation
     
    Paul Cassel, May 27, 2006
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  4. Most likely problem? Fuel supply.
    2nd most likely issue? Fuel supply.
    3rd most likely? Fuel supply
    ..
    ..
    ..
    10th most likely issue? Fuel supply.

    Drain the fuel bowls. Put some Berrymans in the tank let it sit for a few
    hours. Start it and run it until it quits. Let it sit over night. Start
    it again and run it until it quits. Let it sit overnight.

    Don't keep trying to start it running down the battery. You might cook the
    starter motor. Then you will be buying a starter on top of everything
    else.
     
    R. Pierce Butler, May 28, 2006
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    Ron Seiden Guest

    One potential contributor to the "fuel supply" problem would be clogged
    venting for the tank. Like any bottle of liquid, if air can't get in, liquid
    won't long pour out...
     
    Ron Seiden, May 29, 2006
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  6. True, but I would expect it to run at an idle for longer than a few
    seconds.
     
    R. Pierce Butler, May 29, 2006
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    fweddybear Guest

    One potential contributor to the "fuel supply" problem would be clogged
    Try starting it with the fuel cap off and see what happens... at least
    that way , if it does the same thing, you can rule that out....to me though,
    it sounds like a clogged fuel filter, or petcock filter (if you have one).
    If you can see little metal chips in the fuel filter, the inside of your
    tank is starting to rust, which means its time to Kreme it. You may also
    have those little rust particles in the carb already, so those would have to
    be cleaned if you haven't already done so.
    One question is how old is the gas? It may be contaminated (with water)
    and need to be drained.

    Let us know how you make out..

    Fwed
     
    fweddybear, May 29, 2006
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  8. I think that Kreme is not the best product. I belive that POR-15 is
    better. If any coating is to be used in the tank, follow the instructions
    to the letter.

    I didn't coat mine but I did use Marine Clean on it. Amazing the junk that
    came out.
     
    R. Pierce Butler, May 30, 2006
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  9. These bikes have a very large, fine mesh screen in the intake from the tank,
    the tank would really have to be in amazingly sad shape for particles to
    clog that screen. It is only a moments work to pull the fuel line off the
    petcock
    and put on a temporary rubber line, and look at fuel flow from the tank

    Ted
     
    Ted Mittelstaedt, May 30, 2006
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  10. When I took the petcock off my 81 Honda due to lack of fuel flow, it was
    nearly completely clogged with varnish. That is what happens when a bike
    sits for several years with fuel in the tank. The tank? Once I cleaned it
    it was fine. No kreem or POR15 needed. I did however add a fuel filter to
    the mix.
     
    R. Pierce Butler, May 30, 2006
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    fweddybear Guest

    In my particluar case, I was getting small chips, so the tank needed to
    be coated.....at the time there was a new tank on ebay, but was wayyyyyyyyyy
    too much money.... my bike sat for 6 yrs. and so the story goes.. or went in
    my situation... now the bike runs great.... probably the best its ever
    ridden because ive rejetted it and it doesn't even have any hesitation in
    the 5-6000 rpm range anymore!!

    Fwed
     
    fweddybear, May 30, 2006
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    kotchou Guest

    All the help is greatly appreciated. Thanks everyone.

    The gas in the tank is from last year, and I want to drain it
    completely. I bought a fuel additive by Lucas that I want to put in the
    tank once all the fuel has been drained. I managed to drain residual
    gas by loosening a screw on each side of the bike near the carburetors.
    Question: how do I remove ALL the gas from the tank?

    Paul
     
    kotchou, Jun 1, 2006
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  13. You could remove the petcocks, but that's probably overkill.

    Put the petcock on "start" or reserve, drain what you can,
    put a little bit of new gas in the tank and drain again.

    Easiest way to dispose of the old gas is to mix with a
    tank of new gas in your car.
     
    Rob Kleinschmidt, Jun 1, 2006
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    fweddybear Guest

    Fweddybear did not write the above... not sure why people cut and paste....

    Fwed
     
    fweddybear, Jun 2, 2006
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  15. Pull off the tank, remove the petcock, and if your lucky the plastic
    screen will come out too. Otherwise carefully thread a wood screw that is
    a bit bigger than the screen down into the screen just enough to grab it,
    then gently wiggle and work it out. With the screen in the tank it will take
    forever to
    drain it.

    Ted
     
    Ted Mittelstaedt, Jun 2, 2006
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