1975 Honda CB750 - Leaking carb...

Discussion in 'Motorbike Technical Discussion' started by Ig, Jul 3, 2006.

  1. Ig

    Ig Guest

    Greetings... I've been trying to sort this one out for a while...
    thank you in advance for any advice.

    First I had a very steady gas leak from the carburator to the point
    where the engine would flood.
    I adjusted throttle and float heights and now the bike stays running,
    but carb no 2 still leaks - sometimes just a drip, other times a
    drip-flow. What puzzles me is that (1) the fuel jets don;t seem
    clogged, and (2) the leaking doesn't begin until the engines been
    running for a while.
    Would you recommend adjusting the float hieght on no.2 in order to
    "fix" the problem?
    If not, where else should I look? (I've never had to take the carbs
    apart so if that's required, please know I'm a complete novice - but
    trying hard to learn... I love this bike, even though it's causing
    headaches).
    Also, I'm upgrading the capacitator from the original to modern. I've
    purchased the parts and want to take it to a machanic for installation.
    what is a fair price for this service?
    thank you.
     
    Ig, Jul 3, 2006
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  2. Ig

    FB Guest

    The float valve may have some debris or gum and varnish keeping it from
    closing fully.
    Check the level, but look at the float valve seat with a magnifying
    glass. The tiniest bit of varnish can block the valve from seating.
    Replacing the capacitors on the points should take no more than 1/2 an
    hour, if the mechanic stops for a cup of coffee. Maybe $25 for the
    labor?
     
    FB, Jul 3, 2006
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  3. First of all, check your points - if they are pitted (ie:
    capacitor/condensor is
    failing, which is the usual reason they are replaced) then replace the
    points
    too. Second, don't just change parts to get "modern" ones without any real
    reason for it. The points capacitor(s)
    are always changed when the points are changed (unless the guy doing the
    work is a real cheapskate) and what you got in there is extremely unlikely
    to
    be 31 years old, and original. A new capacitor isn't going to help the
    borderline spark on these bikes get any better unless the original part is
    failing and the spark you have now is total garbage. If you really want to
    improve your spark with modern components, put in an electronic ignition,
    new wires, etc.

    Ted
     
    Ted Mittelstaedt, Jul 3, 2006
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  4. Ig

    Ig Guest

    Thanks for the advice on changing the points. you're right, but I'm
    actually upgrading the capacitator because the battery isn;t
    sufficiently charging while I operate the bike. I tested the current
    and was hardly getting 12 volts when I'd rev the engine.
     
    Ig, Jul 4, 2006
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  5. Ig

    FB Guest

    Then you should figure out what is wrong with the charging system and
    fix that.

    The capacitor just reduces ignition point arcing. If you have 12 volts
    to the coils that will give you a reasonably strong spark of around
    9000 to 12000 volts.
     
    FB, Jul 5, 2006
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  6. voltage measurements at the battery terminals don't tell you
    much about whether the bike is charging the battery properly or
    not.

    The first question you need to ask is, is the battery taking a charge
    at all?

    If you go out and start the bike, ride it for a couple hours, then
    shut it off for a couple hours, then start it again from the battery, then
    the battery is taking a charge.

    The next question to ask is, is the battery holding charge?

    If you go out and do all this and it works, but then you leave it
    set overnight with a battery cable disconnected, and in the morning
    you reconnect the cable and the battery won't start the bike,
    then the battery isn't holding a charge.

    If the battery is taking but not holding a charge, then it's bad and
    needs replacement.

    If the battery is not taking a charge then you need to put a current
    ammeter in series with a battery lead. If the bike starts, then
    supplies any amount of charging current to the battery, then the
    bike charging circuit is probably OK. In that case you need to
    take the battery out, charge it with a battery charger, then put it back
    in, if it will not start the bike, the battery is bad.

    If you can charge a battery with a charger, and it sits for a week and
    still starts the bike, however once the bike is running over time the
    battery gets discharged, only then should you start questioning the
    bike's charging circuit.

    A bad battery can make the bike charging circuit look like it's
    not working.

    A bike's electrical system isn't designed to recharge a good battery
    that has been drained down to zero.

    If the charging system in your bike is working properly it will
    supply anywhere from 1.4 to 4.2 amps to a good fresh battery
    that has been drawn down after starting the bike. When a good
    fresh battery is _fully_charged_ in your bike it will not draw more
    than about 20-30 milliamps of charge current.

    Ted
     
    Ted Mittelstaedt, Jul 6, 2006
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