1970 Nurburgring crashes

I raced bangers for a number of years and ended upside down a fair few
times (it was never /my/ fault).

I'd be very interested in the special skill that means I can land it back
on the wheels.

IME of rolling, you tend to see tools you'd mislaid sailing past. "Oh,
so that's where the 7/16 spanner went..."

 

Where's here?

In the UK seatbelts were compulsory from 1964 and wasn't applied
retrospectively. Mounting points for rear seatbelts had to be fitted in
the around 1973/4 - I think.

IIRC, the only safety development applied retrospectively in the UK was
windscreen washers (or it had to have movable windscreens).

 

The UK

I thought it was new cars from 67, then in 69 it was backdated to all
post 65 cars.

BICBW. Usually am. Either way - '70 wasn't "pre-seatbelt"...

 

It was pre-compulsory to wear them.

I wonder when it became compulsory in Germany?

 

In 1980 I had a 1965 MkI Humber Sceptre that was, IME, unusual for a
car of its age in that it was fitted with seatbelts. However, they
were not three-point, consisting of a diagonal strap only. Useless,
uncomfortable and fiddly, they were never worn and that's why I broke
my nose on the steering wheel and my mate in the passenger seat
concussed himself on the dashboard, when coming to an abrupt halt from
~5mph.

 

My 64 minor had no seatbelts when I got it, but had all of the mountings
for 3 point belts (except the transmission tunnel mounts, which had to
be drilled out)

 

Zactly, although it's not the engine location that's the
critical factor but the use of nice 'n' cheap swing axle
rear suspension. Beetle, rear engine Fiats, NSU.
Of course having the jacking at the heavy end
may well make it even worse. I suppose that's
why there were no Triumph Heralds shown - or
maybe there was another reason for that?

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Nobody in Germany was daft enough to buy a Herald?

 

It wasn't the first corner?

 

They put the engines into Amphicars instead.

 

Seriously? Wow

 

Similar from the rear
www.amphicar.com/AmphiPl8tes.htm

 

The chassis rusted off on the Channel crossing.

 

Seriously, IIRC they use a Herald engine. Probably because most German
car manufacturers thought that an amphibious car would be a really daft
idea.

 

The country that brought the world the "Schwimmwagen"?

Shawly know.

Spelling is guesswork, btw.

 

Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Hog

Oddly, my new (Bell) car insurance policy is the first one I've ever
seen to explicitly exclude the Nurburgring.

Not that I'm likely to be toting a Rav4-wivva-slushbox around there at
speed, but...

 

Dan L wrote:

In the early 70s I distinctly remember helping my dad to retro fit
front seatbelts into his 1966 Minor Traveller, because they became a
part of the MOT for all cars built after 1964.

Many, if not most, cars sold in the UK between 1964 and when they
became a part of the MOT test in the early 70s, were sold without belts
fitted as standard. All these cars had to have them fitted after a
certain date or they would have failed the MOT, so retro-fitting was
the only option if you wanted to keep the car on the road.

 

You're a bit wrong on this point. See my other post in this thread.

 

Usually covered by 'racing, pace-making, time-trials, or other
motorsports' which I've had in many policies.

 

Actually that's not excluding the Nürburgring because that's a public
toll road during Touristenfahrten days and regular German traffic law
applies. Right up to plod pulling people.

The exclusion you're looking for is for "one-way toll roads" although I
was tempted to try and find out if there are any other one-way toll
roads anywhere in Europe and then bash the insco around the ears for
excluding real public roads.

I'm still amazed that inscos can get away with that exclusion; IIRC
European Law requires that your policy (if it has European cover) would
offer the minimum required cover in the country you're travelling to,
which in Germany would include the 'ring.