1969 Honda CL350 Doesn't Go Above 40mph

Discussion in 'Motorbike Technical Discussion' started by Guest, Jun 24, 2006.

  1. Guest

    John Johnson Guest

    "nomorespameventhoughthejapanesespamgivesmeachuckle"
    I suppose you that if you could find a platinum plug (one of those 100k
    mile ones) with the right dimensions you could look for an adhesive
    suitable for gluing it in permanently. I'm sure such an adhesive exists
    (or could be made), but I don't know what it is. Whatever it is, it
    needs to stick to steel and aluminum, not to drip, be conductive, resist
    the relevant temperatures, etc. I'd start with aircraft specialty supply
    places, I guess.
    Well, to guarantee it, you take the head off and tap it, put the
    heli-coil (or time-sert, mentioned by Mark Olson) in and clean all the
    chips off before re-installing the head. If you don't want to go that
    far, you do what Mark Olson said: grease the tap, clean it often, and
    use compressed air to blow things out afterwards. You also hope nothing
    gets wedged in there (I don't know how likely it would be).

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    Later,
    John



    'indiana' is a 'nolnn' and 'hoosier' is a 'solkk'. Indiana doesn't solkk.
     
    John Johnson, Jun 27, 2006
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  2. nomorespameventhoughthejapanesespamgivesmeachuckle
    In theory, you need to take the head right off to recut or Helicoil the
    thread.

    In practice, it *can* be done in situ if you are very careful. After the
    job's done, use gaffer tape to attach a pipe to the end of a vacuum
    cleaner nozzle and stick it down the plughole to suck up any swarf that
    may have dropped in.

    And your b-i-l is a klutz.
    It gets worse.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Jun 27, 2006
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  3. Don't even think about it.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Jun 27, 2006
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  4. Guest

    John Johnson Guest

    That was supposed to be a joke, but I only remembered the smiley _after_
    posting. So, for the record, the above is an incredibly stupid idea, as
    ToG implies. Don't do it.

    --
    Later,
    John



    'indiana' is a 'nolnn' and 'hoosier' is a 'solkk'. Indiana doesn't solkk.
     
    John Johnson, Jun 27, 2006
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  5. "nomorespameventhoughthejapanesespamgivesmeachuckle"
    That could be exhaust backfiring, can be caused by unburned fuel getting
    into the exhaust. The carbs are misadjusted or have a problem.
    Try a hand impact tool, the kind you hit with a hammer, before you try
    drilling, if you can fit it down there. Sometimes there's enough of a
    screwhead left that these will get them out. I would be inclined if that
    doesen't work to use a large bit and just drill enough to make the head
    of the screw come off. Then remove the cover and you should have enough
    of the screw left sticking up to be able to use a stud remover to get it
    out.

    Ted
     
    Ted Mittelstaedt, Jun 28, 2006
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    Aaron M. Guest

    Do you have to stock pipes? Stock on a '68 and '69 CL350 are 2 into 1
    with a single muffler. there are two outlets on the muffler, but you
    can plug one completely and exhaust from both cylinders will come out
    the unplugged pipes. Because of this, it can be hard to tell if both
    cylinders are actually firing evenly. The stock '68 and '69 2 into 1
    pipes are less restrictive, a bit louder and have more power than the
    later 2 into 2.

    I wouldn't worry about trying to find air filters like the ones you
    described they aren't the stock one anyway. They sound more like the SL
    filters. I'd just get anything that will fit. You may have to re-jet
    though.

    The idle jet on the CV carbs on this bike is very small. The whole jets
    screws out with a slot screw driver, and the passage is miniscule. If
    you can't see through it, it's not clean. A very very thin wire can
    help clear it.

    On carb adjustment, the Haynes manual says to adjust the idle screws
    until it's idling from 1000 to 1200 and the pressure is equal in both
    pipes, then turn one carb's mixture in or out until the rpms are as
    high as they will go. Reset the idle speed, then adjust the mixture in
    the other carb the same way, and adjust the idle speed one last time.

    The spark plugs should only be torqued to 12 lbs. Thread them by hand
    so you don't strip them out.

    Did you check compression in both cylinders?
     
    Aaron M., Jun 28, 2006
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