Flushed with the successful fettle and rebuild of the TS this weekend we are now turning our thoughts towards a suitable 125, as one will be required come November. The choices so far are as follows: 1st: Honda NSR - They look the part and should be reliable (being a Honda), shouldn't they? 2nd Yamaha TZR - Hmm, less likely to have withstood years of teenage thrashing? 3rd Cagiva Mito - These are very fragile, aren't they? 4th RS125 - Again, fragile and probably thrashed? We looked at the CBR125 at the BMF Show, it looked the part, but general opinion is that they are a bit sluggish. I did suggest the one true motorcycle, but the look I got said it all. Any thoughts, ideas, advice etc -- Dan L (Oldbloke) My Bike 2000 Honda CB500 M'boy's Bike 1990 Suzuki TS50X (Heavily fortified) BOTAFOT #140, DIAABTCOD #26
Oldbloke says... Not as hardy as you'd think, and almost impossible to derestrict cheaply. Parts are expensive and not that easy to come across as they didn't sell a huge amount of them compared to the TZR. Made in Italy, so draw your own conclusions as to finish and electrics. Probably thrashed to death, but dirt cheap to rebuild with parts available almost everywhere. Piss easy to de-restrict and quicker than the NSR once they are. I'm biased towards Yamaha's little strokers, they take all manner of abuse before they die. You could rebuild the engine from top to bottom for less than 200 quid.
Thanks for that Loz. My CB is Italian built and the engine / crankcase covers are coording quite spectacularly This sounds more like what we are after, tuneable and cheap to fix. Many thanks -- Dan L (Oldbloke) My Bike 2000 Honda CB500 M'boy's Bike 1990 Suzuki TS50X (Heavily fortified) BOTAFOT #140, DIAABTCOD #26
<snip> Bad form etc Of course, I meant corroding <snip> -- Dan L (Oldbloke) My Bike 2000 Honda CB500 M'boy's Bike 1990 Suzuki TS50X (Heavily fortified) BOTAFOT #140, DIAABTCOD #26
The UK model is very simple to derestrict. There's a sleeve in the exhaust, and a cover with a hole in over the air intake. With the european models you have to mess about changing the CDI.
I will second that, I had a DT125 (definately recommend) which was a doddle to de-restrict and work on. It is the same engine as the tzr125 so the parts are common as muck, and the DT can be used off road.
<delurk> XR125L? 125 commuting fun, and it'll do big trips. It's a CG125 in a trailie frame, apparently. </relurks>
You pays your insurance premiums and takes your choice... As long as you aren't paying, let your kinder make their own choice, good luck... C90, I know, they won't listen... ;-) -- O 1 Black, shortly to undergo extensive surgery. 1 Red, undergoing lightweight surgery. ----- 1 Blue, for Power-Ranger baiting. | o | Numbers ... | o | Stuff ... | ooo | Life ... -----
Yes, but you aren't a 17 year old. As a yoof of that age, the boring details are not what riding a motorcycle is all about. -- Alex BMW R1150GS DIAABTCOD#3 MSWF#4 UKRMFBC#6 Ibw#35 BOB#8 http://www.team-ukrm.co.uk Windy's "little soldier"
Come off it, if *you* were 17 again, surely you'd want the coolest thing you could lay your hands on? Or I could be misreading your post... not sure if you're putting yourself in Old Bloke's position or that of his boy? -- jeremy ['75 RD250A ] | ['02 Fazer 600 in blue] ____________________________________________ jeremy at hireserve dot com
You did but then followed that up with words to the effect of "If i was that age again" At 16 I had the de facto fizzie, when I was 17 I had a Yamaha RS100 ....when what I wanted was an RD200 (for the electric start) or RD250. I'd even have settled for an RD125 but budget dictated a 100cc and with the cheap insurance... I had a load of fun on that bike - absolutely loved it. And actually didn't feel that I *had* to have something bigger/"better" but peer pressure can be hard to handle. -- jeremy ['75 RD250A ] | ['02 Fazer 600 in blue] _______________________________________ jeremy at hireserve dot com
Sounds like the perfect opportunity for you to get a new bike and pass your suitably restricted [1]500 onto Son#1. [1] removal of the engine?
This has been discussed and considered cg125 Transplant -- Dan L (Oldbloke) My Bike 2000 Honda CB500 M'boy's Bike 1990 Suzuki TS50X (Heavily fortified) BOTAFOT #140, DIAABTCOD #26
Doesnotcompute says... **** that. I had a used Fizzie when I was 16, and bought a brand new RD250E for my 17th birthday, a month later I'd PXd it against a brand new RD400E after passing my test. When I was 17 insurance and running costs didn't matter, looking cool and being on a fast bike did. Looking as I do I never achieved the former, but that didn't bother me cos I was always faster on my RDs than my mate's fucked old GT250s, and I could cart the slapper of the day around cos I had a full licence and they didn't. I reckon passing my bike test got me more shags than anything else when I was a teenager.
