It's come down to these 2 machines for my next bike. What matters to me is comfort, ease of handling and reliability. A seat upgrade fo either bike will be the first thing I get. I commute from SCruz to Mountainview, and hit the SCruz hills for fun. I've had a half dozen Japanese but no HDs in my 35 years of riding. So if any of you fine folks can offer your insight, many thanx!