104mph cop keeps job -- The Simple Truth about Speeding from the Horse'sMouth

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by The Real Archibald, Apr 30, 2004.

  1. The Real Archibald

    Pip Guest

    I dunno, I think he's right about selfishness. There's no courtesy
    left on the roads, is there? It used to be that if you erred and
    another driver admonished you, a wave of apology was proffered and
    accepted. Now a bout of apoplectic rage ensues.

    And nobody ever lets anybody out any more - except the dipshit in
    front of me on a main road who tests her ABS to a smoking halt to let
    a funeral cortege out. Or something like that.
     
    Pip, May 1, 2004
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    dormouse Guest

    It usually means business property and interest extorted by the state from
    the private owners that financed and developed it to a profitable state. It
    means profitable businesses or businesses with potential for growth or
    profitability being managed in accordance with outmoded and discredited
    socialist quasi-religious dogma in order to cripple them financially,
    destroy productivity and make vast numbers of workers unemployed and
    dependant upon the state.

    Examples from the UK include (but are not limited to), shipbuilding,
    aircraft manufacture, railways, railway infrastructure and dependant
    industries, weapons manufacturing, car manufacturing, truck/LGV and bus
    manufacturing, the coal industry, the steel industry ...
     
    dormouse, May 1, 2004
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    sweller Guest

    If he's right no-one seems to have told my employers, or their
    shareholders for that matter.
     
    sweller, May 1, 2004
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  4. yone going less than 70 on any m-way.
    90kmh is the speed they cruise along at. And bloody dangerous it is
    too.
    Imagine, you've got 480hp, cruise control, automatic engine braking
    and a speed limiter that is set at 90kmh. It might be set at 90, but
    it could come in at anywhere between 85 and 95. Thats why you get
    trucks crawling past one another on the motorway, at speeds below the
    speed limit for the class of vehicle.
    Befor truck speed limiters were madatory (iirc 1992) there were far
    fewer truck overtakes as the driver was responsible for maintaining
    the speed, not the limiter. On the motorway, virtually all the trucks
    that could maintain 60mph did so with only a few underpowered motors
    going slower.
    Now most trucks have sufficient power to maintain cruising speed up
    most motorway hills, but all are on limiters that vary from truck to
    truck so you get more trucks overtaking.

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    Colonel Tupperware, May 1, 2004
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  5. What do you think I mean by the word "accident", as a rule people
    don't crash their cars on purpose.
     
    Mindcrime -uk-, May 1, 2004
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  6. I never said that it did. I said that the faster you are travelling
    when accident occurs the greater the force of impact of a collision
    and the higher the chance of fatalities.
     
    Mindcrime -uk-, May 1, 2004
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  7. Pip wrote
    Not unless there has been a major changer in the way Homo Sapiens think
    and act in the last 50 years. Man has always been selfish, the nature
    of the beast and all that. These days the roads just happen to be the
    place they tend to congregate in large numbers.

    I wouldn't know, I never err. And if by some mischance I ever do I
    certainly won't be slowing down just to exchange cheery waves with
    someone on the verge of a heart attack. Although I might consider
    giving them the internationally recognised gesture indicating that I am
    about to pull a wheelie. Attempt to pull a wheelie, sorry.
    Have you considered that there may be a connection between this and the
    Badgers nest you had removed form your head recently? A slaphead Pip is
    not a pretty sight.
     
    steve auvache, May 1, 2004
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    ogden Guest

    You fail to mention the nature of that proportionality.

    It could be argued that, as a result of their reduced mass, bikes
    should be allowed to travel legally at speeds far in excess of those
    permitted for cars.

    Or that Caterhams should be able to go faster than Bentleys.
     
    ogden, May 1, 2004
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    sweller Guest

    You really don't know what you're talking about.

    How is a four point belt and a /roll/ cage going to dissipate the energy?
     
    sweller, May 1, 2004
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    Brimstone Guest

    An "accident" is a totally unforseen event. Most road traffic incidents are
    totally foreseeable and avoidable.
     
    Brimstone, May 1, 2004
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    sweller Guest

    Hence the police signs requesting information no longer say "accident"
    but "crash". Certainly here in Sussex.
     
    sweller, May 1, 2004
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    zaax Guest

    How do you work that one out?
    A lot of high speed accidents, due to modern technology, are survivable
    You should go out and drive on a British road. There are lot more things
    dangerous things done on UK road than speeding.
     
    zaax, May 1, 2004
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    chris Guest

    : chris wrote:
    :
    : >The railway's have effectively
    : >been nationalised again by the back door by Labour.
    :
    : You haven't any idea what "nationalised" means, have you?

    I have every idea. What makes you think the railway's haven't been
    effectively re-nationalised again?

    Railtrack - a private firm, with private shareholders - was brought back
    under state control. Bought back at a minimal price. Indeed, whilst
    the train companies are still private companies, Railtrack (now Network
    Rail) is a STATE OWNED COMPANY.

    It is _you_ who needs to do further reading, not me.
     
    chris, May 1, 2004
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    ogden Guest

    I try to take the precaution of Not Having Accidents.

    It's worked pretty well for the last ten years, though I did have some
    karmic credit rolled over from the couple of years before that...
     
    ogden, May 1, 2004
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    sweller Guest

    They haven't.
     
    sweller, May 1, 2004
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    deadmail Guest

    I'd agree with the old bloke that smells of wee here.

    I pass a motorway accident about once a week, so call it once in about
    5-600 miles of driving. I wouldn't think most of them were heavy, but
    to be honest I'm too busy watching the road to rubber-neck the accident
    properly.
     
    deadmail, May 1, 2004
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    sweller Guest

    Actually, I though I'd better expand on my "They Haven't" post.

    Network Rail is *NOT* a state owned company. The railways have *NOT*
    been renationalised. I suggest you know what you're talking about before
    arguing the toss with railway employees.

    Network Rail is a company limited by guarantee. This means that, while
    they are a private organisation and operate as a commercial business,
    they have no shareholders. Instead they are accountable to members, who
    do not receive dividends or share capital. They have similar rights to
    those of shareholders in a public company, except they have no financial
    or economic interest in Network Rail. This means they have a duty to act
    in the best interests of the company without personal bias.
     
    sweller, May 1, 2004
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    ogden Guest

    Quite. As I mentioned on ukrm recently in another thread, I have what I
    call Fear Of The Unknown when it comes to cornering. I go in far less
    hard than I would if I had full foreknowledge of the road ahead, or was
    following someone else (after all, if they're not embedded in a surprise
    tractor, odds are I'll get through too)

    Not an unhealthy fear, that. But rarely related to doing 120mph on
    mostly clear motorways...
     
    ogden, May 1, 2004
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    grant Guest

    Bollocks has the OP stated speed doesn't kill its the incompetent
    driver driving at high speed that does the killing. You can bet had
    they ridden the accident storm when there was no speed limits on the
    first Mways instead of imposing the 70 limit there would not be half
    the accidents on Mways now that there are .
    Grant .
     
    grant, May 1, 2004
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    Peter Guest

    What's a "posh" car?


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    Peter

    Remove the INVALID to reply
     
    Peter, May 1, 2004
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