100 MPH! Thank God They Killed Just Themselves! Typical CycleCrazies! Good Riddance!

Discussion in 'Motorbike Technical Discussion' started by Dr. Cavortian, Jun 20, 2008.

  1. The brothers sped away from the cops at 100 per, one on a STOLEN
    cycle. And these guys didn't deserve to DIE?

    They died horribly, I'm happy to say, in the manner in which many
    motorcycle nuts die -- SPEEDING BEYOND COMPREHENSION!

    But face it, moto-jerks ... the ONLY reason YOU infantile outlaws RIDE
    these things is so YOU CAN BREAK THE LAWS OF THE ROAD!

    So here's hoping many more of you nitwits kill yourselves this week.
    As long as you don't kill or maim others, I look upon your deaths as I
    do the daily shooting, stabbing, and OD deaths of drug users and
    dealers in our nations' ghettos!

    In fact, I always smile inwardly when I read or hear of another
    motorcyclist's death! One less dimwit on the highway. One less jerk
    on a screaming 140 dbl machine weaving crazily in and out of lanes,
    speeding past the "slow" law-abiders, waiting to cut another sucker
    off! No need to bother about stop signs and red lights, is there,
    pea-brains?

    No question -- the world is better off without ALL OF you!

    Check out THIS comedy! It made MY day!

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    "Motorcycle Ride Ends in Tragedy for Brothers"

    "Police Radar Shows Speeds of Up to 100 MPH Before Crashes Off an Exit
    Ramp in Baltimore"

    By Aaron C. Davis
    Washington Post Staff Writer
    Friday, June 20, 2008; B01



    The Heureaux brothers were riding motorcycles, heading north on
    Interstate 95 near Laurel, Maryland, when at speeds of nearly 100 mph
    they raced by a state police trooper armed with a radar gun.

    The trooper pulled his car out and turned on his lights, a state
    police spokesman said yesterday, describing the events of Sunday.
    About 16 miles later, Suky Amin Heureaux, 25, and Suky Shamin
    Heureaux, 24, died in nearly simultaneous crashes on an exit ramp in
    Baltimore.

    Today, in Prince George's County, a wake will be held for the
    brothers, one of whom was riding a stolen bike, police said. The
    service will be attended by family and friends from the Washington
    area's Dominican community, some of whom wonder whether the trooper
    chased the brothers, a contention police deny.

    "They tell me they were racing, that's all they tell me," Maximo
    Heureaux, 45, who shared his home in Landover with his sons, said of
    his limited contact with investigators. "I don't believe the police;
    nobody here believes the police. We all need to know what really
    happened."

    Sgt. Arthur Betts, a police spokesman, denied that there was a chase
    and said the trooper, James Davis, appears to have followed state
    police policies.

    "This all could have been prevented if they had stopped," Betts said
    of the brothers. "The trooper didn't do anything to make them crash
    their motorcycles."

    Police declined to released the agency's pursuit policy yesterday,
    saying the agency must receive a mailed written request before doing
    so. Betts, however, said that unlike in many area jurisdictions that
    only allow police to pursue felony suspects, Maryland state troopers
    are allowed to chase traffic violators.

    The issue has special resonance in the Maryland suburbs. Last year, a
    Prince George's County police officer's pursuit of a motorcyclist on
    the Capital Beltway led to a fatal seven-car pileup; the officer has
    been indicted on two counts of vehicular manslaughter.

    Betts said Davis clocked three bikers traveling north at about 100 mph
    near the exit to Maryland Route 32. Betts said Davis pulled his car
    onto the highway, two bikers pulled over, and what he thought was one
    biker -- it turned out to be two -- kept going.

    Davis did not stop to write a ticket. Davis tried to "catch up" with
    the remaining biker but did not chase him, Betts said. Davis did not
    request permission to initiate a high-speed pursuit, which would have
    required a supervisor's approval, Betts said.

    Betts declined to release Davis's maximum speed. He said Davis only
    lost sight of the biker at the entrance to the Baltimore Harbor Tunnel
    on Interstate 895 in Baltimore, shortly before the crashes Sunday.

    With the brothers that day was Pedro Gervacio, 31, who was the lead
    rider as the three neared Route 32. Gervacio said a fourth motorcycle
    had been with the group, but he was not sure if the rider was with the
    group when they passed the police car.

    At the tunnel's toll plaza, Davis stopped to see whether cameras
    recorded the bike's license plates. The brothers crashed after exiting
    the tunnel; each was thrown off an elevated highway as he attempted to
    negotiate the off-ramp to Holabird Avenue.

    Friends of the brothers, both of whom were fathers, said they probably
    fled because they had recently learned from a friend that one of the
    bikes, bought this spring from an acquaintance, had been reported
    stolen. Suky Shamin also might have been driving with a suspended
    license, court records show.

    Gervacio said he saw the police car, lifted his right arm and tapped
    the top of his helmet, a signal to the others that an officer was
    ahead. They slowed, Gervacio said, and he did not see the trooper
    leave his post. More than three miles later, however, Gervacio said he
    looked in his rear-view mirror and saw the trooper closing fast with
    his lights and sirens on.

    Gervacio said he pulled over, but the brothers kept going north on
    I-95, faster than they had when they first passed the police officer
    at the side of the road. Gervacio said the trooper also was clearly
    chasing both brothers at that point. He estimated that the cruiser was
    five car lengths behind the two bikes.

    "That's the last time I saw any of them," Gervacio said.

    Several minutes later, an employee at a trucking company at the base
    of Holabird exit heard the crash and called police after he saw a
    black helmet rolling down the exit ramp. The police were not far
    behind, he said.

    "When I was on the phone, I could hear the sirens," said the employee,
    who spoke on the condition of anonymity because he said he had a prior
    criminal record and feared retaliation by police.

    The body of Suky Shamin traveled 150 feet beyond the elevated ramp
    before landing near a railroad line. The body of Suky Amin was found
    below the ramp.

    For Maximo Heureaux, an employee of the Maryland-National Capital
    Parks and Planning Commission, the deaths ended a link that he said
    went with the nickname he had bestowed on both sons. As a young child
    in the Dominican Republic, Maximo said he was known for yelling "Suky"
    when he saw neighborhood boys riding Suzukis by his parents' home.

    "It was my lucky nickname," he said. "I gave it to both of them."

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/06/19/AR2008061903810.html
     
    Dr. Cavortian, Jun 20, 2008
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    S'mee Guest

    You have issues, get HELP now. Then go learn to ride a motorcycle you
    jealous cage monkey. I'm just sorry the dickheads didn't take out a
    couple of people like you. I've lost more family to ignoranus's like
    you out driving drunk. People like you are guilty of premeditated
    murder, you just haven't picked your victim yet. You muredering cage
    monkey.
     
    S'mee, Jun 21, 2008
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  3. OK so then what your saying is that anytime someone on a bike decides
    to go, ya know, 100Mph down the highway, the cops should just let them
    go right on by and do nothing. Because, to chase them would be stupid.

    Uh huh.

    Let me tell you what stupid is. Stupid is a ticket for going 75 on a 55Mph
    4 lane, divided freeway, at 10:00am in broad daylight with maybe 8 other
    cars on the road.

    Well, if it's going to be OK for the cops to chase me down and write me
    a ticket for 75 - as they did a month ago - by God they're gonna
    chase down the guy going 100Mph. As a voter if they didn't I'd damn well
    see that they did next time around.

    Because if I'm going to have to pay a ticket for going 75, then by God he is
    going to pay one also. And if he kills himself trying to get out of paying,
    then that's his choice.

    Ted
     
    Ted Mittelstaedt, Jun 21, 2008
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  4. I've employed a variety of tricks to get out of tickets, some which have
    worked, some not. Unfortunately in this case it was the old story of
    a little small town that's a bedroom community of a big city, who
    creatively adjusted their city boundaries to encompass about 3 miles
    of very lightly travelled state highway, specifically as a revenue source.
    Tricks don't work with those kinds of speed traps.

    Points are not involved in this one because after paying their fine if
    you pay an extra $70 for "traffic school" they divert the ticket so it
    doesen't go onto your driving record. (and thus your insurance rates
    aren't affected) After all, all they want is for you to pay for their city
    government, they don't want to actually punish you by making your
    insurance rates go up.

    The Oregon legislature actually passed a law a few years back that
    restricted the amount of ticket revenue these towns could take. There
    was one down off I-5 somewhere that was getting something like
    7 million dollars a year in speeding tickets and it comprised about
    95% of their entire city budget. Somehow that town had got ODOT
    to reduce the posted speed on that small section of I-5 to 55. The
    rest of I-5 is 65 or higher.

    Ted
     
    Ted Mittelstaedt, Jun 21, 2008
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    S'mee Guest

    Speed is life or so I'm told. Me I don't need blistering
    speed...bright red agonizing pain across all exposed surfaces will
    suffice.
     
    S'mee, Jun 21, 2008
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    S'mee Guest

     
    S'mee, Jun 22, 2008
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  7. Coburg, OR. I looked it up, actually I was a bit off on their figures.

    Their "best" year was 2003-2004 when they fetched $774K comprising
    around 50% of their budget.

    In 2006-2007 they fetched $324K comprising 30% of their budget

    Good story about it here:

    http://www.prisontalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=95860

    Here's where the good stuff is, though:

    http://www.copspy.com/OR.html

    Ted
     
    Ted Mittelstaedt, Jun 22, 2008
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  8. Coburg, OR. I looked it up, actually I was a bit off on their figures.

    Their "best" year was 2003-2004 when they fetched $774K comprising
    around 50% of their budget.

    In 2006-2007 they fetched $324K comprising 30% of their budget

    Good story about it here:

    http://www.prisontalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=95860

    Here's where the good stuff is, though:

    http://www.copspy.com/OR.html

    Ted
     
    Ted Mittelstaedt, Jun 22, 2008
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    Janice Guest

    Learned it in traffic school, you can ride on a motorcycle between cars
    only if you are going no faster than 40 or 45 mph. What is the term for
    this? I will look it up. This is for California.
     
    Janice, Jun 22, 2008
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    . Guest

    That's not a California law, it's just the conventional wisdom of us
    more intelligent riders to STOP splitting lanes when the traffic is
    moving that fast.

    Originally, us old time bikers just wanted to ride side by side for
    companionship on long rides. We wanted to SHARE lanes, but the cops
    didn't like the idea, so we got stopped for sharing lanes.

    As the traffic volume increased during the gas crises of the 1970's,
    more riders began to commute by motorcycle, and they would reduce
    their commute time by riding the line between cars.

    That is called SPLITTING lanes. It's one thing to pass stalled traffic
    in a huge freeway parking lot during rush hour, but many riders
    routinely began using the "motorcycle lane" between cars, passing
    everything on the road.

    One rider boasted that he and his friends had split lanes between
    totally stopped traffic at 80 mph...

    I have been stopped for splitting lanes at only 25 mph. I was
    following an LAPD Kawasaki on the Ventura Freeway.

    The cop noticed the twin headlights of my new sportbike, and he
    shouted,
    "If you're keeping up with me, you're riding too fast!"

    Then he asked me whether my new bike was a GSXR750 or a GSXR1100.

    I told him to read the large decals on the side covers and figure it
    out...

    So, the speed which traffic officers will tolerate while splitting
    lanes varies as to what kind of motorcycle is splitting lanes and
    whether the cop has a
    hard on for that kind of bike.
     
    ., Jun 22, 2008
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    Curt Guest

     
    Curt, Jun 22, 2008
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    . Guest

    I drove through Jordan Valley about four times in 1972 and never had
    any
    problem with the police there. I had to stop and have my battery
    charged twice though.
     
    ., Jun 22, 2008
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    Ted Mittelstaedt, Jun 23, 2008
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    Lobby Dosser Guest

    Well, not the Only car ... :)
     
    Lobby Dosser, Jun 23, 2008
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    Curt Guest

     
    Curt, Jun 24, 2008
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    jessicadua Guest

    WOW!!! I can't believe that there's nasty ass RAT'S in this EARTH LIKE
    YOU...Go to church and pray him to take you out of this world. You're
    sick how can you find joy and make fun out of this tragedy...However,
    if you have so much SHIT to say come down to Mount Rainier, MD and
    we'll make a JOKE outta your ass. You dumb MOTHER FUCKER...Hit me up
    BITCH

    Jessica D.
     
    jessicadua, Jun 24, 2008
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    wndyportillo Guest

    Everyone who knew Amin and Shamin knew that they would have given you
    their last $1.00 if you needed it without a doubt.They were the
    sweetest friends I have ever had.Everyone knew them. They were not
    criminals. They were both also married; They come from a loving family
    who cared for and supported them. The motorcycle was not stolen.The
    journalist had limited information that came from a police officer who
    refuses to give the family a detailed and complete story of what
    happened.Their stories have changed too many times. The hospital does
    not report anyone by their names being in the ER; however, the officer
    claims one brother was there. There are witnesses who have come
    forward and contradict the information reported in this article.
    Before you decide to judge and believe what you read, please review
    your sources and their credibility.

    I am disgusted by the negative comments made to say the least. I am
    almost positive that race has a factor in this. No one deserves death;
    we are human and make mistakes.No one in this world is perfect.You
    have done something wrong, but might not have gotten caught...does
    that make you better? People who have negative things to say are
    merely victims of their own pathetic and lonely lives.

    RIP Amin and Shamin; you will always be loved and remembered...
     
    wndyportillo, Jun 24, 2008
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    artwork Guest

    it would be a shame to not respond to this in accordance with the tone
    taken against the 2 brothers that lost their life. but i will
    retrain. one would wonder if the author has ever done anything
    outside the norm or even maybe taken a chance to live outside of ANY
    rules or boundaries. i am sure he has, but yet he sits on a high
    pedistal and passes judgement on others. shame shame. who is he to
    smile at the death of anyone? with such a calous posting i know
    exactly who he is, one of these bitter, straight edged, the world is
    wrong, i am right, do-gooders. did he stop to think that in their
    youth these two might have merely made an error in judgement? i bet
    he won't even acknowledge that it is a loss of life, period, and in
    that alone it is sad. or the fact that they both left behind
    children, and they were both truly beloved sons themselves, mostly
    known for there playful nature and amazing sense of humor. they were
    amazing friends and fathers. and he remarks as if he even had the
    right. their funeral drew nerely 600 friends and families, how man
    people will attend his, i venture to guess not nearly as many. it is
    bitter people like this who make light of tragedy that in the end
    blame everyone else for how tragically lonely their lives are, and
    this is the way they lash out. i knew both brothers, and i can tell
    you about a million other instances of their lives which would outline
    why they did not deserve this. i hope the author prays that karma for
    such bitter existance is not as swiff and brutal as i would be if i
    met him in the street saying these words about my 2 friends.
     
    artwork, Jun 24, 2008
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    S'mee Guest

    Easy some of us KNOW there is no invisible man running our lives. How
    is this? Easy it's called FREE WILL you stupid woman. It's something
    you'd learn more about if a emotionally numb woman like you would burn
    your cars, SUV's, Mini-Van and other four wheeled conveyances and
    start riding the safer vehicle the motorcycle you poor pathetic,
    delusional, insensitive, religious fanatic...your type outght to move
    to Arabia or Afghanistan where your backward, ignorant and wrong
    headed thinking will fit right in.

    --
    Sincerly a right bastard that spent half his life protecting your
    right to be an ignorant stupid woman.
    Keith


































    You stupid whore.
     
    S'mee, Jun 26, 2008
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    S'mee Guest

    Yeah, yeah they can. Just ask the lying, murdering bastards that
    killed them. Remember tho' they lie like politicans!
     
    S'mee, Jun 26, 2008
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