'04 R6-600RR-800SS opinions

Discussion in 'Australian Motorcycles' started by sal, Nov 6, 2004.

  1. sal

    sal Guest

    All,

    Am interested if anyone has purchased the subject mentioned bikes to email
    me with reasons/experiences, especially if in comparison with testing the
    other models listed in the subject heading. Also welcomed is any online
    review board web addresses.
    Reason being after riding a 250 Zeal for some 3 1/2 years its time to
    upgrade, and test riding these bikes (bar the 800SS as unable to find a
    dealer to supply one) I still see no huge noticeable difference between
    them. This is owing to the difference between the Zeal and 600's is so huge!
    It feels like I would need half a day with each 600 to really nut out the
    differences. So atm, just bugging the dealers for 2nd,3rd....test rides
    ($15k is allot of money!).

    Please feel free in using my email address.

    Cheers.

    Sal.
    (PS am not asking for which bike is best or starting some stupid debate,
    just personal experiences)
     
    sal, Nov 6, 2004
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  2. sal

    FuTAnT Guest

    Sorry, can't help you about experiences, 'cause I haven't ridden either, but
    see if you can try and nut out a decent test ride with some dealers. Not all
    will do it, but if you ask around you should be able to get somewhere that
    will perhaps take you for a guided so to speak, decent ride. Something in
    the order of a few hours n stuff as well.

    Make sure the tyre pressures are spot on the manufacturers settings as well
    before going out the door, dealers tend not to be great in this dept, and it
    can really make a difference to what you like in a bike. See what you think
    anyway, in all honesty you can't go wrong with the current crop of 600's,
    litre bikes etc. Most of it just comes down to personal preference and
    styling etc.

    Good luck, enjoy the shopping ... it's fun!

    Cam
     
    FuTAnT, Nov 6, 2004
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  3. sal

    yubs Guest

    Ridden the CBR 600 RR at 2 test 1/2 hour test rides at Phillip Island. I
    found its strong points were the gear box and the engine. The bike has an
    awsome engine.
    I ended up buy the R6 2003 which is effectively the same as the 04. The
    reason is the handling of the R6 I found to be the best of any bike I have
    ridden, it is a very direct stearing bike and has very quick stearing which
    makes it very easy to ride. Some people like that in a bike, some don't.
    The engine and gear box arn't quite as good as the cbr but still very good.

    Either way u can't go wrong, both are very good out of the box.
     
    yubs, Nov 6, 2004
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  4. sal

    manson Guest

    IK wrote:

    How about this one then?

    Ignore the 800SS, pick which ever "sport" 600 from Suzi, Honda, Yamaha
    or Kawasaki, that comes in a colour to match your leathers.

    regards,
    CrazyCam
     
    manson, Nov 6, 2004
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  5. sal

    IK Guest

    Anybody who buys an 04 R6 or a CBR600RR based on that reccommendation
    deserves everything they get...
     
    IK, Nov 6, 2004
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  6. sal

    yubs Guest

    So he disserves a good bike either way?

    Really there isn't that much difference, I just picked the biggest
    difference I noticed. Hard to pick more that that in a 1/2 hour track
    season.
     
    yubs, Nov 6, 2004
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  7. sal

    OMERTA Guest

    Perhaps you should look at the post above and thing long term...

    Jappers are worth jack, to much discounting and model changes

    CDIHL
     
    OMERTA, Nov 6, 2004
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  8. sal

    yubs Guest

    Perhaps you should look at the post above and thing long term...
    Depends what your going to do with it, weekend putt putt bike just on the
    road, or are your going to ride it at a track. Really theirs no point
    buying a sports bike if your riding it just on the road unless you want the
    image, don't like your licence and life or enjoy putting on something thats
    basically a race bike.

    At 80kmh your still in first on alot of them and would never get a chance to
    open it up to the full 270-280 kmh available on the 600 without a death
    wish. On another note I would hate to crash an Italian made bike at a
    track. Costs enough with a jap bike and I know some Italian bikes take a
    while to get the parts in as they aren't widely available particularly the
    MVs.

    Finally Italian bikes don't have the go of the jap bikes. A ducati 749 is =
    to a 600 jap bike. But I have to admit the Ducati is an awesome
    looking/Sounding and apparently handling bike but for 30-40 k who cares
    about the resale. If you loose 1/4 you have already lost 1/2 the value of
    the Jap bike.
     
    yubs, Nov 6, 2004
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  9. sal

    Geoff Guest

    Depends upon the jap bike, not all of em are 'must have the latest one'
    sports bikes.

    The sports tourers, and the tourers and even the customs tend to have much
    better retained value.


    G-S
     
    Geoff, Nov 6, 2004
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  10. sal

    Johnnie5 Guest

    crashed mine at the track , needed bugger all parts which i sourced away
    from the dealers
    dependant on what you actually need there is aftermarket , or you can soon
    get parts from
    other places around the world at well below new cost

    cost was very minimal and rode it home
    the whole reason for buying a used bike is you don't drop your lunch when
    you pick it up

    once the new bike drop is done the Italian bikes plateaus in price for a few
    years and then slowly
    start to drop again

    either way you don't buy a ducati or any bike for that matter because of
    facts and figures on paper

    go for a run up the old road or wherever and you will all get there pretty
    much the same time , buy the bike
    you want the most and you will enjoy it
     
    Johnnie5, Nov 6, 2004
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  11. sal

    OMERTA Guest

    "IF" i ever purchased a bike again this would be it :

    Loop : Home-CafeRacer-ChapelSt-LygonSt-Home
    Prob. 500km per year

    CDIHL


    just on the
     
    OMERTA, Nov 6, 2004
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  12. sal

    Tex Guest

    Great so we should buy italian: overpriced, outdated and underpowered.
    Thanks I'd rather buy a real motorcycle, not a cafe-wank machine
     
    Tex, Nov 6, 2004
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  13. sal

    IK Guest

    Yes, and he deserves to be told about it in a passage of text which:

    1.)doesn't read like Year 3 English homework.
    2.)shows some insight. "I thought the engine was awsome".

    But then again, you replied in earnest to a Hatz post, so what's to be
    expected...
     
    IK, Nov 6, 2004
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  14. In aus.motorcycles on Sat, 06 Nov 2004 10:06:47 GMT

    Very few riders can ride any modern middleweight to its limits.

    So worrying about a few ponies is silly.

    Buy the bike that won't let you leave the showroom without it.

    If a bike doesn't mug you and throw your wallet to the salesman as it
    drags you out the door you haven't found the right bike yet.

    Zebee
    - multiply mugged.
     
    Zebee Johnstone, Nov 6, 2004
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  15. sal

    bill_h Guest

    Nicely put. A long time ago I desperately lusted after a MkIIA, which
    mugged me and threw my wallet at the salesman, but unfortunately the
    wallet had too many moths in it, and not enough money. Bought a second
    hand Bonny instead, which I could afford, and which I wound up loving
    to death in any case, in more ways than one.

    Bill
    ...
    Bill_H

    *** replace the email addy with bill_h at iinet dot net dot au
    Some days it's just not worth the bother chewing through the restraints
     
    bill_h, Nov 6, 2004
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  16. sal

    yubs Guest

    Hmm Mr Nasty again, u seem to troll around allot

    didn't your mother love you enough? did your wife leave your for another
    man because u had a small dick? Got no friends or anybody else to listen to
    u bitch so u sit hear picking on peoples English on a saturday night?

    Sorry if I didn't want to write a 2 page review on the bike and its engine.

    An awesome engine means :it has good mid range and top with a linear power
    curve as u put the throttle on thus meaning awesome in short
     
    yubs, Nov 6, 2004
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  17. sal

    Richard Fay Guest


    Exactly.... which fits you best and you get the best price on... buy.

    Richard

    ZX6R
     
    Richard Fay, Nov 7, 2004
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  18. sal

    sal Guest

    Cheers all for the input. Like I said I wasn't after which bike is best but
    after experiences of anyone test riding the three (not for decision making
    purposes, just out of interest). The time spent test riding seemed to go
    awfully...er.....quick (he he) and the difference between the 250 and ANY of
    the 600's overshadowed the difference just between the 600's themselves.
    I guess I'd love to be able to say "Yeah model X kicks ass over Y and Z,
    where do I sign", but every one of them I have come back giggling like a 5yr
    old! If I could have my way, I would pick 8 models ranging from cruisers to
    sports sitting in my garage, there'd never be an excuse not to ride them!

    Thanks all again.
     
    sal, Nov 7, 2004
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  19. sal

    Centurion Guest

    Maybe I'm just a power-hungry kinda guy, but the first CBR600RR (RRR....?) I
    rode at Oran Park (2003 Honda "DNA Test") must've been a little different.
    My impression was, like most 600's;
    - no torque, anywhere; if you're not slipping the clutch, you're kicking
    down a gear or two to keep the thing percolating.
    - no usable power below about 6000RPM
    - had to ring the thing's neck to get any adrenalin pumping

    Keep in mind I ride a ZX9R, so it was a bit of a "backward" step in
    capacity, but I never have like 600's much. They're fun to fang around the
    track (light and "flickable"), but a bitch on the road (no torque - always
    changing gear). Gimme great gobs of HP and usable torque and I'm happy.
    My ZX9R cruises around quite happily below about 4500PM but there's
    12000RPM on tap when "the occasion calls for it" :)

    BTW - the new Fireblade's are a real rush....but that's a different thread.

    James
    ZZR250->ZX9R
     
    Centurion, Nov 9, 2004
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  20. sal

    1013 Guest

    As your signature says, did you jump from a ZZR250 to the ZX9R?

    How was that in terms of the learning curve?
     
    1013, Nov 9, 2004
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