£ island - Public Health Announcement

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by boxerboy, Oct 31, 2009.

  1. boxerboy

    Adrian Guest

    Just so we're clear... Brits going abroad can benefit from a reciprocal
    care arrangement, but not Johnny Foreigner coming here?

    Do you know what "reciprocal" means?
     
    Adrian, Nov 2, 2009
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  2. I was thinking more of their pillaging ukrm, you little scamp.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Nov 2, 2009
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  3. Yes

    I have no problems with reciprocal care if the level of care is
    broadly the same and the service doesnt become a 'one' sided
    arrangement because of population flows , same with all the other
    services


    Our health , education and other services/ infastructures were never
    set up to cope with the levels of demand now bieng placed upon them
    by our changing society and that of the rest of the world .


    We have to be realistic we cant keep the world were a small island
    off the coast of europe we no longer the dominant world power we
    once were
     
    steve robinson, Nov 2, 2009
    #43
  4. boxerboy

    Lozzo Guest

    You can **** right off.
     
    Lozzo, Nov 2, 2009
    #44
  5. boxerboy

    'Hog Guest

    You are only a Faux Spic now
     
    'Hog, Nov 2, 2009
    #45
  6. boxerboy

    'Hog Guest

    Good at stating the bleeding obvious aintya.

    There is a section of WLO that thinks if all the little 3rd worlders
    can't have it you don't deserve it either, therefor anyone should have
    access to the UK and the NHS should provide as best it can for all
    concerned.

    Harsh though it sounds as the world has about twice as many people as it
    can easily support we should be exporting a lot less healthcare. Or a
    lot more contraception. Or something.
     
    'Hog, Nov 2, 2009
    #46
  7. So you believe that its ok for foriegn nationals to come into the uk
    make use of the facilities then leave without paying a brass farthing
    into the system and expect those paying tax and NI within the uk to
    cover thier costs

    As you say you can **** right off

    Thats why this once great nation is financially fucked
     
    steve robinson, Nov 2, 2009
    #47
  8. boxerboy

    Ace Guest

    I think it's great. Was dead impressed by the Greek hospital who
    stitched the end of my finger back on after an anchor windlass
    incident. Just like the NHS, there was no question of asking for
    payment.
    Yeah, that'll be it.
     
    Ace, Nov 2, 2009
    #48
  9. boxerboy

    Lozzo Guest

    I'm officially a foreign national, as well as being a tax-paying
    British citizen too. I think it's only fair that we extend the same
    medical treatment to visitors to this country as many Brits get abroad,
    regardless of their country of origin.
     
    Lozzo, Nov 2, 2009
    #49
  10. boxerboy

    YTC#1 Guest

    Have they not learnt their lesson yet ?
     
    YTC#1, Nov 2, 2009
    #50
  11. boxerboy

    YTC#1 Guest

    Even the ones that keep the hospitals staffed ?

    Also a bit harsh on the countries we took over, used all their natural
    resources and as soon as they got uppity fucked off and left them.
    And we go full circle.
    So, what was your septic mates excuse ?
     
    YTC#1, Nov 2, 2009
    #51
  12. boxerboy

    YTC#1 Guest

    That the world dominating power that striped other countries of
    resources and now wonder why they want something in retuurn ?
     
    YTC#1, Nov 2, 2009
    #52
  13. boxerboy

    Andy Bonwick Guest

    snip>
    So we make them pay then?

    I'd actually prefer it if we could have reciprocal agreements with all
    countries that have a similar level of medical expertise available to
    their residents as we have available to us.

    The rest can **** off.
     
    Andy Bonwick, Nov 2, 2009
    #53
  14. boxerboy

    Andy Bonwick Guest

    snip>
    What the **** are you on about?
     
    Andy Bonwick, Nov 2, 2009
    #54
  15. boxerboy

    Lozzo Guest

    Not always. I've had minor A+E treatment in the USA that was FOC and
    same again with medical treatment in Malta without having to show my
    Maltese passport despite looking and sounding English.
    Oooh, you're so harsh
     
    Lozzo, Nov 2, 2009
    #55
  16. boxerboy

    Dave Emerson Guest

    When did Champ last visit the CI's?
     
    Dave Emerson, Nov 2, 2009
    #56
  17. boxerboy

    dwb Guest

    Because we have our own version of the NHS, paid for by us, through
    taxation and other bills. If treatment is required in the UK, it's
    paid for by Guernsey. No handouts, no freebies - just our own, far
    less inflated and wasteful system.

    What a pile of crap, however you're (YTC) being pretty consistent to
    your name here so why break a streak
    Yes - however if you consider what it used to be before TRP was
    introduced [1], you can see why they moan. They see the percentage
    increase (lots), not the value. Trying to tell people that you pay
    that per MONTH in the UK falls on deaf ears.

    [1] The very weird Rateable Value system, which increased for having
    such things as more than one toilet and an outside tap - very odd.
     
    dwb, Nov 2, 2009
    #57
  18. boxerboy

    dwb Guest

    Unemployment benefit - just like the UK.
    See above - a match (and in many ways seriously better - no waiting
    lists) to the NHS.
    You can get incapacity benefit, or an old age pension.
    The old age pension is higher than that paid in the UK and has, over
    the last 10 odd years, consistently risen above RPI (and therefore
    consistently outpaced it's UK equivilant).

    We may be "tax dodgers" (a lie for 99.9% of the people living here),
    however much of what gets collected in tax actually benefits those
    that live here, rather than lost in a sea of inefficiency and waste.
     
    dwb, Nov 2, 2009
    #58
  19. boxerboy

    dwb Guest

    Eh? It costs £35 to see a GP [1]- Condor charge _way_ more than that
    plus you have to sit on a boat for hours.
    Plus no waiting lists, decent service etc etc.

    [1] if you don't have private health cover
     
    dwb, Nov 2, 2009
    #59
  20. boxerboy

    dwb Guest

    Because we have our own system.
     
    dwb, Nov 2, 2009
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